Can’t have emotions in sports betting. I’ve made a pretty penny the last two Illini games, sadly
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I think there's good reason to have been concerned about the bolded, but what we're seeing here is what happened during his Purdue recruitment, which is why he backed out. So no one should be surprised if he leaves.
Thank you. Really appreciate your insight. However, if NBA scouts fall for that, then they are not qualified to do their job. They should reach out to Brad and get his opinion before listening to an agent.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
I speak as a finance guy who LOVES data. If you solely rely on data to make decisions without context, you will not make optimal decisions.
Sports cannot be boiled down to a spreadsheet.
Sports cannot be boiled down to a spreadsheet.
Big Jack
- Decatur
When KJ tries to drive and hasn't lost control of the ball..... no one moves they just stand there... no one tries to cut to an open spot near the basket. IMHO our offense is set to all stand around at the 3 pt line since we like to jack up 3's at such a high rate.. If their penetration is stopped then the ball goes back to the perimeter and the next guy tries something or passes it around the line.. I have seen it over and over and over for 6-7 years..
He got by with his loose ball handling when not doubled but his apparent ball handling skills are weak when pressured. Same with Kylan.. Only Will seems to be able to avoid these traps and only because of his size. I do not believe him or KJ are anywhere near NBA ready, flashes? yes. Believe they both could honestly use one more year of college ball but that is my opinion. Sadly if it were to happen doubt either one would be back.
You and me both.
This is the problem. We don't run an offense. Last year when Shannon drove, he was so dang good, and strong, he'd score. KJ doesn't have the strength Shannon does and can't finish as well.
Now if we had people cutting to the basket to fill when defenders slide over to stop KJ, then you give him options to pass to instead of being stuck in the paint.
So all this talk about illness. It just is totally odd to me. If the flu is running rampant in the midwest how are other teams avoiding the same situation we are told we are in? Why, if as we are told guys have been playing sick, do no other teams seem to fall ill after playing us, with mass absences for 6 weeks like we have seen? Just a very odd, odd situation viewing it from the outside.
Alright, I hate to be the forum police, but it's time. And Big Jack...this post is not just directed at you. Moving forward, any poster who puts on their NBA executive hat and says KJ & Will aren't worthy of being drafted this year will be smacked by your local constable.
I get it. KJ is sloppy as hell. Riley needs to put on some weight. They are not ready to step on an NBA floor right now. Hell, sometimes they even look bad on a college floor right now! The draft is not about right now. I want you to put on your thinking caps for 2 seconds and imagine this...the year is 2032. KJ is no longer 18 years old and no longer coached by Tyler Underwood. He's learned a thing or two after dedicating his life to basketball with every imaginable resource at his disposal. And would you believe it, he's learned how to navigate double teams and value possessions! Young Will Riley is now 25 year-old Will Riley. I have to squint because it also appears he's put on about 25 pounds and matured into a man. Even the acne is cleared up! He's bigger and stronger and not getting pushed around. It's almost like they're supremely talented, but physically and mentally immature
Is there an organization out there that would invest early in an asset like that?
If you can be draft police, I get to be age police. Will Riley will be 26 for pretty much all of calendar year 2032.Alright, I hate to be the forum police, but it's time. And Big Jack...this post is not just directed at you. Moving forward, any poster who puts on their NBA executive hat and says KJ & Will aren't worthy of being drafted this year will be smacked by your local constable.
I get it. KJ is sloppy as hell. Riley needs to put on some weight. They are not ready to step on an NBA floor right now. Hell, sometimes they even look bad on a college floor right now! The draft is not about right now. I want you to put on your thinking caps for 2 seconds and imagine this...the year is 2032. KJ is no longer 18 years old and no longer coached by Tyler Underwood. He's learned a thing or two after dedicating his life to basketball with every imaginable resource at his disposal. And would you believe it, he's learned how to navigate double teams and value possessions! Young Will Riley is now 25 year-old Will Riley. I have to squint because it also appears he's put on about 25 pounds and matured into a man. Even the acne is cleared up! He's bigger and stronger and not getting pushed around. It's almost like they're supremely talented, but physically and mentally immature
There are plenty on the open market right now.
But which dog will score points?
Perfect analysis. No cutting, no diving to the basket, no good screens, no movement and the defense sucks. I know guys are sick and hurt but this team shows signs of no coaching in fundamentals. Why is there never any help defense, why do they get lay ups and 8 foot shots. I just don't get it and I wish the coach did.
And to put it simply... we have seen far, far worse players than Will and KJ get selected in the first round/lottery year after year after year.Alright, I hate to be the forum police, but it's time. And Big Jack...this post is not just directed at you. Moving forward, any poster who puts on their NBA executive hat and says KJ & Will aren't worthy of being drafted this year will be smacked by your local constable.
I get it. KJ is sloppy as hell. Riley needs to put on some weight. They are not ready to step on an NBA floor right now. Hell, sometimes they even look bad on a college floor right now! The draft is not about right now. I want you to put on your thinking caps for 2 seconds and imagine this...the year is 2032. KJ is no longer 18 years old and no longer coached by Tyler Underwood. He's learned a thing or two after dedicating his life to basketball with every imaginable resource at his disposal. And would you believe it, he's learned how to navigate double teams and value possessions! Young Will Riley is now 25 year-old Will Riley. I have to squint because it also appears he's put on about 25 pounds and matured into a man. Even the acne is cleared up! He's bigger and stronger and not getting pushed around. It's almost like they're supremely talented, but physically and mentally immature
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I agree there will be few if any returning. They are not having fun and they will simply move on. They are not enjoying playing with Brad's game plans (if there are any).
Photoshop skills on point
Post of the thread. Thank you.Alright, I hate to be the forum police, but it's time. And Big Jack...this post is not just directed at you. Moving forward, any poster who puts on their NBA executive hat and says KJ & Will aren't worthy of being drafted this year will be smacked by your local constable.
I get it. KJ is sloppy as hell. Riley needs to put on some weight. They are not ready to step on an NBA floor right now. Hell, sometimes they even look bad on a college floor right now! The draft is not about right now. I want you to put on your thinking caps for 2 seconds and imagine this...the year is 2032. KJ is no longer 18 years old and no longer coached by Tyler Underwood. He's learned a thing or two after dedicating his life to basketball with every imaginable resource at his disposal. And would you believe it, he's learned how to navigate double teams and value possessions! Young Will Riley is now 25 year-old Will Riley. I have to squint because it also appears he's put on about 25 pounds and matured into a man. Even the acne is cleared up! He's bigger and stronger and not getting pushed around. It's almost like they're supremely talented, but physically and mentally immature
That's what makes the narrative all the more ridiculous and foolish .
He's not wrong. Over the summer, just before the Olympics, he was invited to participate and he did. He did more than hold his own. Many of the NBA'ers, notably LBJ.....were extremely outspoken about him.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
I think people mistake "First Round/Lottery Pick" as "Ready on Day 1."
A lot of the players drafted in those spots are forced to play Day 1 because they're going to bottom-dwelling teams, but the draft is about potential. KJ, Will, and Tomi all have the potential, and that's what front offices will draft on. They'll trust that their coaches and the players having all their focus on basketball instead of splitting it between school and basketball will solve their ills.
Heard Strudy mention Davis threw up at halftime. Which would make a lot more sense in how everything played out.
Not to challenge the board police, but with all due respect, what you say is true, but those guys are usually drafted 50th, not 5th.Alright, I hate to be the forum police, but it's time. And Big Jack...this post is not just directed at you. Moving forward, any poster who puts on their NBA executive hat and says KJ & Will aren't worthy of being drafted this year will be smacked by your local constable.
I get it. KJ is sloppy as hell. Riley needs to put on some weight. They are not ready to step on an NBA floor right now. Hell, sometimes they even look bad on a college floor right now! The draft is not about right now. I want you to put on your thinking caps for 2 seconds and imagine this...the year is 2032. KJ is no longer 18 years old and no longer coached by Tyler Underwood. He's learned a thing or two after dedicating his life to basketball with every imaginable resource at his disposal. And would you believe it, he's learned how to navigate double teams and value possessions! Young Will Riley is now 25 year-old Will Riley. I have to squint because it also appears he's put on about 25 pounds and matured into a man. Even the acne is cleared up! He's bigger and stronger and not getting pushed around. It's almost like they're supremely talented, but physically and mentally immature
If you're in the top 10, the expectation is to play now and get minutes now. Right now, AT BEST, with how they're playing.....they'd be considered projects and you're right ...at 25, he might be ready. That would be 2032.
If you argue that KJ is 2 or 3 years away.....that's 2028. Any GM with a top 10 pick would be fired if that's the expectation for a lottery pick.
Look at TSJ......he's 3 years older and is 10 times the player of both of those guys(to your point, he's more developed).....but if he's getting minimal tick, where would KJ or WR be?
Most importantly, what's the guaranteed money for a lottery pick slot? If you're Utah or Washington....are you doing that deal?
Right now, they are projects and they'll test the waters and will see if the money makes sense. If it does, you leave. If it doesn't, collect your millions in NIL and stay. That easy.
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
Near 0% chance that the Illini are in NIT. If the Illini lose out and get passed over for the tourney (just beating Iowa should be enough to be fairly safely in the field), they are almost certain to get one of B1G's nod to the Vegas College Basketball Crown Tournament. If the Illini don't get selected for that tournament, given all the sicknesses and injuries, I would not be surprised to see the Illini pass on postseason tourneys altogether.
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