Luke Butkus to FIU. Now, Luke Butkus to the Jacksonville Jaguars

Groundhogday · Jan 15, 2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by quhawks12

And it might be a year too late anyway?

Yep. I was thinking the exact same thing this morning. You only get one shot to make a first impression.

GilThorpe · Jan 15, 2013, 10:05 AM

its not too late, but if our problems were 50% coaching and 50% players, we simply wasted alot of time and effort .

TB can still get the ship headed in the right direction and at the right speed, but boy, what a way to start. He needs to manage the perception of his performance with three groups:
1. his employers
2. his players and recruits
3. the fans

the employers will most likely give him two more years provided real objective progress is made on the field. Another year like last year and I have my doubts

the players and recruits need to buy in to his style and schemes and if they do, and he can recruit at an even higher level, the future will be bright

the fans are going to be the toughest. His honeymoon ended with the ASU game. He wasted his whole first year building up any goodwill with the fandom , and the fans are going to be the toughest to win back over. We need to put up 24-28 points a game and allow our defense a chance to play agressive, and that means we will occasionally give up a score when we are unlucky. We need a QB who can throw the ball more than 8 yards downfield. This is our biggest problem right now.

quhawks12 · Jan 15, 2013, 11:24 AM

Good points Gil

Dan · Jan 25, 2013, 07:55 AM

Luke Butkus to the Jags!

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Jacksonville Jaguars: Sources tell us FIU offensive line coach (and former Illinois offensive line coach) Luke Butkus is leaving FIU to become assistant offensive line coach for the Jags.

http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop

BWBW · Jan 25, 2013, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Luke Butkus to the Jags!

Wow

illiniobserver22 · Jan 25, 2013, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Luke Butkus to the Jags!

Sounds like he maybe isn't too fond of recruiting.

hermie1985 · Jan 25, 2013, 08:18 AM

Might learn technique teaching too. First job usually points to strengths and weaknesses.

AHSIllini32 · Jan 25, 2013, 09:34 AM

um, wow...we'll see how this goes for Luke but I dunno.

Calilama · Jan 25, 2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

um, wow...we'll see how this goes for Luke but I dunno.

Anytime an Illini ends up in the NFL it's good...glad he's with Khan and that he connected with colleagues from Seahawks staff...glad he will get more time with his youngsters..they are at a tough age

Sad he's not here....there was something right about a Butkus being on the sidelines....except for the part where it completely didnt work out..HA!...Thomas and Beckman were totally professional with a tough circumstance and that is hopeful....

Go illini and Go Jags...my new second favorite NFL team

Groundhogday · Jan 25, 2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

um, wow...we'll see how this goes for Luke but I dunno.

I think this will be great for him. Doesn't have to travel/recruit with young kids, and most of his training was in the NFL.

AHSIllini32 · Jan 25, 2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

I think this will be great for him. Doesn't have to travel/recruit with young kids, and most of his training was in the NFL.

I was more looking at it in terms of the fact that he has limited time as an OL coach in the NFL and is now taking over a piss-poor offensive unit.

Lake Camelot · Jan 25, 2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Calilama

Anytime an Illini ends up in the NFL it's good...glad he's with Khan and that he connected with colleagues from Seahawks staff...glad he will get more time with his youngsters..they are at a tough age

Sad he's not here....there was something right about a Butkus being on the sidelines....except for the part where it completely didnt work out..HA!...Thomas and Beckman were totally professional with a tough circumstance and that is hopeful....

Go illini and Go Jags...my new second favorite NFL team

Ditto

Groundhogday · Jan 25, 2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

I was more looking at it in terms of the fact that he has limited time as an OL coach in the NFL and is now taking over a piss-poor offensive unit.

He is the assistant OL coach. Everyone has to start somewhere.

quhawks12 · Jan 25, 2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

I was more looking at it in terms of the fact that he has limited time as an OL coach in the NFL and is now taking over a piss-poor offensive unit.

He isn't taking over. He is the assistant OL coach. It's the proper progression for him.

AHSIllini32 · Jan 25, 2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by quhawks12

He isn't taking over. He is the assistant OL coach. It's the proper progression for him.

That's my mistake then. I thought he was taking over as the OL coach. Ok, then yes I agree this could potentially be very good for him.

BobtheBarber2 · Jan 25, 2013, 04:19 PM

An Offensive Line coach needs an assistant ? How much work can there be coaching a line that it requires assistance ? Sounds like just a title to me.

Groundhogday · Jan 25, 2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BobtheBarber2

An Offensive Line coach needs an assistant ? How much work can there be coaching a line that it requires assistance ? Sounds like just a title to me.

You have a dozen athletes, some paid $mi lions, and yes it is worth having a couple of coaches to give them as much coaching as possible. Every tdam has an asst ol coach.

illini6812 · Jan 26, 2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

You have a dozen athletes, some paid $mi lions, and yes it is worth having a couple of coaches to give them as much coaching as possible. Every tdam has an asst ol coach.

Not to mention former OL Coach Gilbert is an assistant OL coach for the Colts, so yes the NFL needs assistant coaches there

carmelillini · Jan 28, 2013, 01:09 PM

Story in Miami paper that two of Ron Turner's players at FIU took recruit to a strip club. They're riled up down there.

Illinnoying Orange · Jan 28, 2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by carmelillini

Story in Miami paper that two of Ron Turner's players at FIU took recruit to a strip club. They're riled up down there.

The unfortunate reality is that many recruiting visits each year involve things that the general public would never want to hear about.

RyanK · Jan 28, 2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Illinnoying Orange

The unfortunate reality is that many recruiting visits each year involve things that the general public would never want to hear about.

Yep. Someone made sure this got out.

Mark Seifert · Jan 29, 2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanK

Yep. Someone made sure this got out.

The players posted about it on twitter.

illinicb · Jan 29, 2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Seifert

The players posted about it on twitter.

Any pictures?

Lake Camelot · Jan 29, 2013, 07:31 PM

So, maybe the coach didn't know we were losing him to UNC. Still no replacement?

Calilama · Jan 29, 2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Illinnoying Orange

The unfortunate reality is that many recruiting visits each year involve things that the general public would never want to hear about.

I am riled up that I didn't get to go with them.....

Jan 29, 2013, 07:31 PM	#149
Lake Camelot Location: Mapleton,IL. Posts: 774	So, maybe the coach didn't know we were losing him to UNC. Still no replacement? __________________

Jan 15, 2013, 10:05 AM	#127
GilThorpe Location: Hinsdale Posts: 857	its not too late, but if our problems were 50% coaching and 50% players, we simply wasted alot of time and effort . TB can still get the ship headed in the right direction and at the right speed, but boy, what a way to start. He needs to manage the perception of his performance with three groups: 1. his employers 2. his players and recruits 3. the fans the employers will most likely give him two more years provided real objective progress is made on the field. Another year like last year and I have my doubts the players and recruits need to buy in to his style and schemes and if they do, and he can recruit at an even higher level, the future will be bright the fans are going to be the toughest. His honeymoon ended with the ASU game. He wasted his whole first year building up any goodwill with the fandom , and the fans are going to be the toughest to win back over. We need to put up 24-28 points a game and allow our defense a chance to play agressive, and that means we will occasionally give up a score when we are unlucky. We need a QB who can throw the ball more than 8 yards downfield. This is our biggest problem right now.

Jan 15, 2013, 11:24 AM	#128
quhawks12 Location: Hamilton County, IN Posts: 3,357	Good points Gil

Jan 25, 2013, 08:18 AM	#132
hermie1985 Posts: 938	Might learn technique teaching too. First job usually points to strengths and weaknesses.

Jan 25, 2013, 09:34 AM	#133
AHSIllini32 Posts: 6,985	um, wow...we'll see how this goes for Luke but I dunno.

Jan 25, 2013, 04:19 PM	#141
BobtheBarber2 Posts: 206	An Offensive Line coach needs an assistant ? How much work can there be coaching a line that it requires assistance ? Sounds like just a title to me.

Jan 28, 2013, 01:09 PM	#144
carmelillini Location: Hamilton Co. Posts: 2,064	Story in Miami paper that two of Ron Turner's players at FIU took recruit to a strip club. They're riled up down there.