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Old Oct 12, 2009, 11:35 AM   #1
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FIRE ZOOK and hire BOBBY HAUCK!!! Yes, Bobby Hauck and you have probably never heard of him before. He is the head coach for the University of Montana, div 1aa. Career record of 66-16 with two National Championship appearances. More importantly, he is 39-6 in the Big Sky conference. He can recruit and coach with the best of em. He is still really young and could coach the Illini for a long time. He has also led his team to 4 straight Big Sky conference championships. Sounds like a winner to me, bring him here show him the facilities and the potential and GET HIM! Btw Montana would kick our tails this yr.

This is a 1AA aptmosphere that im sure we would love to have here!



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Old Oct 12, 2009, 11:40 AM   #2
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1) Let's not start a new thread for every potential Zook replacement.

2) Hauck has spent his entire life out west, has zero ties to the midwest.

3) It is a big jump from the Big Sky to a major conference. Just ask Paul Wulff.

You can pretty much rest assured that Hauck would not be considered (might not even be interested) were Zook to be fired.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 11:44 AM   #3
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You can pretty much rest assured that Hauck would not be considered (might not even be interested) were Zook to be fired.
You could be right, but I have seen this guy coach in person and he deserves a thread of his own because I think he should be our number one prospect. Plus, whos to say he wouldnt be interested in coaching at a good Big Ten school? Doesn't hurt to ask.

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Old Oct 12, 2009, 12:21 PM   #4
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Just because a coach can be successful at a smaller school does not mean he will work out at a major school. Just ask Coloroado and Dan Hawkins.:rolleyes:




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You could be right, but I have seen this guy coach in person and he deserves a thread of his own because I think he should be our number one prospect. Plus, whos to say he wouldnt be interested in coaching at a good Big Ten school? Doesn't hurt to ask.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 12:22 PM   #5
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Im more inclined to look into bringing in coach Hayden Fox up at Minnesota State. Especially if he is going to bring along his assistants, Dobber and Luther. Those guys can really coach up there, and are good at teaching valuable life lessons along the way.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 12:25 PM   #6
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Im more inclined to look into bringing in coach Hayden Fox up at Minnesota State. Especially if he is going to bring along his assistants, Dobber and Luther. Those guys can really coach up there, and are good at teaching valuable life lessons along the way.
That is also a good possibility. haha

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Old Oct 12, 2009, 12:29 PM   #7
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1) Let's not start a new thread for every potential Zook replacement.

2) Hauck has spent his entire life out west, has zero ties to the midwest.

3) It is a big jump from the Big Sky to a major conference. Just ask Paul Wulff.

You can pretty much rest assured that Hauck would not be considered (might not even be interested) were Zook to be fired.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 12:29 PM   #8
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Just because a coach can be successful at a smaller school does not mean he will work out at a major school. Just ask Coloroado and Dan Hawkins.:rolleyes:
YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE!!!! Not many guys jump in to a D-1 head coaching position. So if we are throwing names out there, how about Jim Tressel, he coached at Youngstown State. Or Urban Meyer at Bowling Green. Hauck is a good coach, I have watched A LOT of his games and I like his coaching philosophy, it would fit in well here.

Just because he isn't a well known name like Tommy Bowden or Tubberville, doesn't mean he can't be a great coach. So do you want to go with a failed big name, or an up and coming no namer? Im not saying we have to hire hauck to be successfull, but lets hire someone who has a good philosophy on coaching and can make our program successfull.

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Old Oct 12, 2009, 01:43 PM   #9
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Im more inclined to look into bringing in coach Hayden Fox up at Minnesota State. Especially if he is going to bring along his assistants, Dobber and Luther. Those guys can really coach up there, and are good at teaching valuable life lessons along the way.
This very nearly sailed over my head. Nicely done.

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Old Oct 12, 2009, 01:48 PM   #10
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YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE!!!! Not many guys jump in to a D-1 head coaching position. So if we are throwing names out there, how about Jim Tressel, he coached at Youngstown State. Or Urban Meyer at Bowling Green. Hauck is a good coach, I have watched A LOT of his games and I like his coaching philosophy, it would fit in well here.
Jim Tressel was an assistant coach for 11 years, including 3 years at OSU. He then coached at Youngstown State for 14 years, where he became a small school legend. His record at YSU was 135572, four national championships, four times national coach of the year.

Urban Meyer was an Assistant coach for 14 years. Then in a meteoric rise, he was HC at Bowling Green (mid-major) for 2 years and another two years at the University of Utah (non-BCS) before getting the nod at Florida.

Hauck was an assistant for 14 years before taking the UM job. UM has gone 29-11 since Hauck took over in 2003, with four conference championships and has twice made the I-AA/FCS championship game. He attended UM, and has coached at UM, UCLA, Colorada, and Northern Arizona. He is a good young coach, and the next step up will probably be a non-BSC conference Div. 1-FBS school (mid-major).

While it is possible to jump straight from a IAA/FCS school straight to a BCS conference school, that is very rare. Most coaches have to put in time at a mid-major. Jim Tressel was an exception, but he also had an exceptional record over a long period of time at Youngstown State. If a BCS school were to take a chance on Hauck it would probably be a school in the west, where he already has recruiting connections.

There is a coaching ladder, and as bad as Illini football has been, a Big Ten school is several rungs above the University of Montana. A successful mid-major coach would be a more appropriate target.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 01:57 PM   #11
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Hauck is a good coach, but whoever follows Zook must be able to recruit the state of Illinois for any hope of climbing out of this hole. Perhaps he could do it, but it creates some initial doubt. I would be willing to roll the dice on a younger coach, but I would take a close look at assistants in the NFL. There are definitely guys out there. If Zook wins less than five games, I think he gets fired.
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Hauck is a good coach, but whoever follows Zook must be able to recruit the state of Illinois for any hope of climbing out of this hole. Perhaps he could do it, but it creates some initial doubt. I would be willing to roll the dice on a younger coach, but I would take a close look at assistants in the NFL. There are definitely guys out there. If Zook wins less than five games, I think he gets fired.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 02:56 PM   #13
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Im more inclined to look into bringing in coach Hayden Fox up at Minnesota State. Especially if he is going to bring along his assistants, Dobber and Luther. Those guys can really coach up there, and are good at teaching valuable life lessons along the way.
I think Luther would love to coach at Illinois, since he's originally from Danville.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 03:04 PM   #14
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FIRE ZOOK and hire BOBBY HAUCK!!! Yes, Bobby Hauck and you have probably never heard of him before. He is the head coach for the University of Montana, div 1aa. Career record of 66-16 with two National Championship appearances. More importantly, he is 39-6 in the Big Sky conference. He can recruit and coach with the best of em. He is still really young and could coach the Illini for a long time. He has also led his team to 4 straight Big Sky conference championships. Sounds like a winner to me, bring him here show him the facilities and the potential and GET HIM! Btw Montana would kick our tails this yr.

This is a 1AA aptmosphere that im sure we would love to have here!


I have to admit, it must be easier to recruit to IL than to Montana!
Another good coach it appears. Again though, they would have to apply!
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 03:30 PM   #15
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I have to admit, it must be easier to recruit to IL than to Montana!
Another good coach it appears. Again though, they would have to apply!
Actually the University of Montana is the Ohio State of the Big Sky. In the 16 seasons since 1993 they have: a record 16 straight playoffs; 14 conference titles (including a few ties); and two national championships. It is the dominant program in the region, Missoula is a great town, and it is not at all hard to recruit Div IAA (FCS) players to the University of Montana. I would guess that it is much harder to recruit quality BCS recruits to Illinois than quality FCS recruits to UM.

This also provides some perspective for Haulk. He didn't build that program. He is doing an okay job of maintaining what others have built.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 06:13 PM   #16
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YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE!!!! Not many guys jump in to a D-1 head coaching position. So if we are throwing names out there, how about Jim Tressel, he coached at Youngstown State. Or Urban Meyer at Bowling Green. Hauck is a good coach, I have watched A LOT of his games and I like his coaching philosophy, it would fit in well here.

Just because he isn't a well known name like Tommy Bowden or Tubberville, doesn't mean he can't be a great coach. So do you want to go with a failed big name, or an up and coming no namer? Im not saying we have to hire hauck to be successfull, but lets hire someone who has a good philosophy on coaching and can make our program successfull.
I think the big point here is not whether any of these proposed coaches would come to IL, or if they could make a jump from one level or the other. The real point is that the contention that no-one is available to come to IL is complete hogwash, as we continue to grow the number of people with potential and who are in the position where IL would be a significant move up.
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Actually the University of Montana is the Ohio State of the Big Sky. In the 16 seasons since 1993 they have: a record 16 straight playoffs; 14 conference titles (including a few ties); and two national championships. It is the dominant program in the region, Missoula is a great town, and it is not at all hard to recruit Div IAA (FCS) players to the University of Montana. I would guess that it is much harder to recruit quality BCS recruits to Illinois than quality FCS recruits to UM.

This also provides some perspective for Haulk. He didn't build that program. He is doing an okay job of maintaining what others have built.
Being the Ohio St. of the Big Sky conference doesn't exactly say much.
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I think a Cardboard cut out of Tom Selleck could do better than Zook.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 10:30 PM   #19
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Being the Ohio St. of the Big Sky conference doesn't exactly say much.
The University of Montana has one of the best FCS (old Div IAA) football programs in the country. It says exactly what I meant it to say: recruiting quality FCS players to UM, which is what you need to win at UM, isn't difficult.
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Old Oct 13, 2009, 04:38 AM   #20
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Hauck is a good coach, but whoever follows Zook must be able to recruit the state of Illinois for any hope of climbing out of this hole. Perhaps he could do it, but it creates some initial doubt. I would be willing to roll the dice on a younger coach, but I would take a close look at assistants in the NFL. There are definitely guys out there. If Zook wins less than five games, I think he gets fired.
So are you suggesting we bring back Ron Turner?
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Old Oct 13, 2009, 05:48 AM   #21
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Another fire Zook thread.........YAWN...................gettn old.............

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Another fire Zook thread.........YAWN...................gettn old.............
Actually, we have moved beyond "fire Zook" threads. Most assume he will be gone, the question is when (this year, or next year with a new AD), and who should replace him.
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Actually, we have moved beyond "fire Zook" threads. Most assume he will be gone, the question is when (this year, or next year with a new AD), and who should replace him.
I think he stays if we save this season and Scheelhaase brings us to the promised land next season.

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Old Oct 13, 2009, 02:11 PM   #24
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I think he stays if we save this season and Scheelhaase brings us to the promised land next season.
We need to drop the notion that a great QB is going to turn things around. What we need is solid defense and quality line play. A good QB is icing on the cake.
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The University of Montana has one of the best FCS (old Div IAA) football programs in the country. It says exactly what I meant it to say: recruiting quality FCS players to UM, which is what you need to win at UM, isn't difficult.
I disagree, although your point is good.

There are tons of FCS teams out there. Georgia Southern was a perenial power, and known as a beautiful city in GA. Many other teams in that division that you are recruiting against. In fact, it was not that long ago that ISU was ranked in the top 10, now look at them. There is a lot of good football in the FCS. However, you still have to recruit against other FCS teams, and recruit against FBS teams. So, if you put together a highly competitive team, you managed to out compete at least the bottom teams in the FBS. Furthermore, isn't the big reason so many folks said people would not want to come to champaign, or that makes it hard to recruit to champaign the cold windy weather??? You ever been in Montana in the dead of Winter? IL looks like a greenhouse in comparison!!! And as for beautiful scenery, here are the skylines of Missoula and Champaign.
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