Conference Realignment 2012

[Dan]

2011 highlights-

Big Ten
Nebraska left the Big 12, began sports participation in the B1G in the fall 2011.

Pac 12
Colorado left the Big 12, began sports participation in the P12 in the fall 2011.
Utah began sports participation in the P12 in the fall 2011.

SEC
Texas A&M & Missoui will leave the Big 12 and join the SEC in 2012.

ACC
Syracuse & Pitt will leave the Big East and join the ACC in 2014.

Big 12
West Virginia will leave the Big East and join the Big 12 in 2012.
TCU will join the Big 12 in 2012.

Big East
Houston, SMU, UCF will will join the Big East in 2013.
Boise State & San Diego State will join the Big East in football only in 2013.

[Dan]

In the Navy: Midshipmen to Join the Big East in 2015

http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/20...-east-in-2015/

[DrewD007]

Man the Big East is a joke.

[Illini125]

Originally Posted by DrewD007

Man the Big East is a joke.

Their conference map is hilarious

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...SA-states1.png

[Dan]

Originally Posted by DrewD007

Man the Big East is a joke.

Well, they gotta do what they gotta do

Personally, I think the SEC & ACC going from 12-to-14 is far more goofier than what the Big East is doing. But still,.. the Big East's map makes me all :laugh:

[Groundhogday]

Originally Posted by Illini125

Their conference map is hilarious

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...SA-states1.png

It is only a matter of time before the basketball schools split off into their own conference. Then, when there are few eastern schools in the Big East, they can rename that conference more appropriately: "etc..."

[NJJ87]

Originally Posted by Illini125

Their conference map is hilarious

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...SA-states1.png

The Big East really needs to grab Hawaii and/or Alaska-Anchorage to make that map complete. :laugh:

[illynifan34]

Originally Posted by Dan

Big 12
West Virginia will leave the Big East and join the Big 12 in 2012.
TCU will join the Big 12 in 2012.

I don't think this has been finalized yet.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...B1_CUTLIN12504

Everyone in the Big 12 Conference is waiting on a resolution between West Virginia and the Big East Conference. They have sued each other. Each has filed for motions to dismiss the other's suit. And both motions were denied.

"We're still waiting for the legal process to reach a resolution on West Virginia's status so we can move forward," said Big 12 spokesman Bob Burda.

http://www.wvmetronews.com/sports.cf...424&type=Frank

The Big 12 would like to finalize its schedule by February 1st and they want the new schedule to include TCU and WVU. However, the Mountaineers still have issues to resolve with the Big East.

[DrewD007]

They'll probably end up breaching the contract with the Big East and they'll work something out where the Big 12 pays some of the penalty fees.

[USNIlliniFan]

Originally Posted by DrewD007

They'll probably end up breaching the contract with the Big East and they'll work something out where the Big 12 pays some of the penalty fees.

I read somewhere this morning that a federal judge has ordered arbitration in the WVA / Big East lawsuit. Perhaps the legal wrangling may be coming to an end. I do agree, Big 12 may wind up paying something to get this deal done.

[4LaCosaNostra]

Uconn should dominate in the bigeast hoops wise..espn has to be pissed with their flagship conference being a joke now

[OlivetNaz]

Originally Posted by DrewD007

Man the Big East is a joke.

Only in name. Actually, it's not a terrible setup for football - you have UCONN and Rutgers as a pair in the northeast, USF and UCF as a pair in the southeast, Houston and SMU as a pair in Texas, Louisville and Cincy as a pair in the midwest, and Boise State and SDSU as a pair in the west. Navy will probably get paired with Temple - who will almost certainly be added as a concession to the basketball faction.

Since Boise and SDSU are joining in football only, it's not nearly as ridiculous as it looks/sounds. Flights in and out of Boise aren't much different in cost from one place to the next, and it's not much different travel-wise from what they normally do - in the last three years alone, they've played at: Hawaii, Louisiana Tech, Toledo, Bowling Green, Tulsa, Georgia (in Atlanta) and Virginia Tech (in Washington DC)...not to mention playing at Michigan State, Southern Mississippi, and probably Hawaii in 2012.

Meanwhile, SDSU is strapped for cash like every public university in California, and the upcoming TV contract will raise them from 1.1 million a year to 6-9 million a year (projected) after the new Big East tv contract gets done.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by OlivetNaz

Only in name. Actually, it's not a terrible setup for football - you have UCONN and Rutgers as a pair in the northeast, USF and UCF as a pair in the southeast, Houston and SMU as a pair in Texas, Louisville and Cincy as a pair in the midwest, and Boise State and SDSU as a pair in the west. Navy will probably get paired with Temple - who will almost certainly be added as a concession to the basketball faction.

Since Boise and SDSU are joining in football only, it's not nearly as ridiculous as it looks/sounds. Flights in and out of Boise aren't much different in cost from one place to the next, and it's not much different travel-wise from what they normally do - in the last three years alone, they've played at: Hawaii, Louisiana Tech, Toledo, Bowling Green, Tulsa, Georgia (in Atlanta) and Virginia Tech (in Washington DC)...not to mention playing at Michigan State, Southern Mississippi, and probably Hawaii in 2012.

Meanwhile, SDSU is strapped for cash like every public university in California, and the upcoming TV contract will raise them from 1.1 million a year to 6-9 million a year (projected) after the new Big East tv contract gets done.

Call me old school, but I still dont like it.

[Serious Late]

Originally Posted by OlivetNaz

Only in name. Actually, it's not a terrible setup for football - you have UCONN and Rutgers as a pair in the northeast, USF and UCF as a pair in the southeast, Houston and SMU as a pair in Texas, Louisville and Cincy as a pair in the midwest, and Boise State and SDSU as a pair in the west. Navy will probably get paired with Temple - who will almost certainly be added as a concession to the basketball faction.

Since Boise and SDSU are joining in football only, it's not nearly as ridiculous as it looks/sounds. Flights in and out of Boise aren't much different in cost from one place to the next, and it's not much different travel-wise from what they normally do - in the last three years alone, they've played at: Hawaii, Louisiana Tech, Toledo, Bowling Green, Tulsa, Georgia (in Atlanta) and Virginia Tech (in Washington DC)...not to mention playing at Michigan State, Southern Mississippi, and probably Hawaii in 2012.

Meanwhile, SDSU is strapped for cash like every public university in California, and the upcoming TV contract will raise them from 1.1 million a year to 6-9 million a year (projected) after the new Big East tv contract gets done.

What you just explained... terrible. So yeah, it is a pretty terrible setup. A bunch of randoms with no connection to one another, doing nothing more than trying to find a way in to the big pocketbooks. Not that I am necessarily bothered by that, but at the expense of Boise and SDSU joining a conference that is no better than where they currently are and comes with the headaches provided? I don't see how having another school on your half of the continent is a benefit to anyone. Saying that BSU/SDSU and Houston/SMU are paired seems awful irrelevant.

Does anyone really believe that the Big East is going to be much more highly regarded in 2014, than the Mountain West would have been with Boise St and SDSU? Why? The bulk of their teams are terrible, there are already rumblings that the BCS as we know it now will be much different come 2015, and the Mountain West, with the additions they had made, was in line to re-negotiate their contract. What possible beneft does Boise St. gain from this? 2-3 years of potential automatic qualification into the BCS? With all the powerful mid-majors bolting to the BCS conferences, Boise St would have been in line to get a BCS bid every year now-2014.

[OlivetNaz]

Originally Posted by Serious Late

What you just explained... terrible. So yeah, it is a pretty terrible setup. A bunch of randoms with no connection to one another, doing nothing more than trying to find a way in to the big pocketbooks. Not that I am necessarily bothered by that, but at the expense of Boise and SDSU joining a conference that is no better than where they currently are and comes with the headaches provided? I don't see how having another school on your half of the continent is a benefit to anyone. Saying that BSU/SDSU and Houston/SMU are paired seems awful irrelevant.

Does anyone really believe that the Big East is going to be much more highly regarded in 2014, than the Mountain West would have been with Boise St and SDSU? Why? The bulk of their teams are terrible, there are already rumblings that the BCS as we know it now will be much different come 2015, and the Mountain West, with the additions they had made, was in line to re-negotiate their contract. What possible beneft does Boise St. gain from this? 2-3 years of potential automatic qualification into the BCS? With all the powerful mid-majors bolting to the BCS conferences, Boise St would have been in line to get a BCS bid every year now-2014.

Big East football is a significant upgrade from the MWC and every other non-AQ conference, and with future additions and subtractions, would have ranked above the ACC the last couple years. As good as the Big Ten or PAC-12? No. But better than what they have now. Do you honestly think Boise enjoys blowing the likes of Fresno and New Mexico out by 50 every year?

The Big East may not have any truly elite programs except for Boise, but they also have no bottom feeders. The MWC, however, will be left with Air Force as the strongest team. TCU, SDSU, and Boise will all have left. Everyone else remaining in that conference sucks.

[GilThorpe]

this new Big LEast conference may not even last long enough to see it get started. It will never stand the test of time. I dont know what other real options some of those schools may have had for high profile football, but this new Big East is never going to work. imo.

[OlivetNaz]

Originally Posted by GilThorpe

this new Big LEast conference may not even last long enough to see it get started. It will never stand the test of time. I dont know what other real options some of those schools may have had for high profile football, but this new Big East is never going to work. imo.

If it collapses, Boise/SDSU/Houston/SMU likely form a new conference, likely pulling Tulsa, UTEP, and a few other schools that have decent sports with them, and possibly including USF and UCF, who will have no other workable options.

Houston and SMU would love to join the Big 12, but that won't happen while Texas is in charge. Boise would love to join either the PAC-12 or the Big 12, but PAC won't happen until Boise expands it's research profile (though this doesn't seem to matter in non-revenue sports...Boise competes in the PAC fit wrestling and a couple other noon-revenue sports), and Big 12 won't happen because Boise is supposedly too small of a TV market. UCF and USF don't want to be left in the Sun Belt and don't want to return to C-USA. Basically, it is a conference of schools that have no other true options.

[DrewD007]

Big 12 still looking to expand

Big 12 looking at Louisville possibly.

[GilThorpe]

Originally Posted by DrewD007

Big 12 still looking to expand

Big 12 looking at Louisville possibly.

They will be getting to 12 again sooner vs later, adding Lousiville & either BYU, Boise or Cincy makes as much sense as anything else.

The proposed Big East, as is, never sees the light of day.

[Dan]

Source: Boise State under pressure from Big East to join in '12 to offset WVU departure. AF likely to join Navy in BE; question is when.

http://twitter.com/wilnerhotline

[Dan]

Memphis to Big East could be announced this week. My story: http://bit.ly/k1M0Dc

http://twitter.com/McMurphyCBS

[KJKobs]

There go the glory days of Memphis basketball

[Dan]

Big East, WVU near $20 million settlement

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssport...32522/34757696

[Dan]

Boise State might join Big East next fall, after all, to offset WVU departure: http://t.co/fka2SXnb

MWC is going to have to act fairly soon, whether it's the CUSA merger or addition of Utah State and San Jose State

Source who told me last wk that Boise under pressure to join BE in '12 said Air Force will folo Navy (to BE) but move could be 2-3 yrs away

Have not heard anything more about BYU (or Louisville) to B12. DeLoss and Co must decide if they want to be 10, 11 or 12.

I keep hearing there is resistance to 12 because of double-jeopardy aspect of league title game. But BCS changes could affect thinking

Expect more attrition from BE. RT @BuffChipScooter: @wilnerhotline Will BE still take AF even tho 12 teams with the addition of Memphis

Problem for MWC and CUSA is networks have little interest in alliance/merger.

Realignment moves won't matter when revised BCS access allows for 5 SEC and 5 B1G schools, and no spots for anyone else. (I joke!) (Sort of)

U sure Rut & UConn are "fully" committed? RT @gritiox @wilnerhotline The BE stabilized. 1 more to lose: UL. All others fully committed.

http://twitter.com/wilnerhotline

[asuato]

Memphis football just went from bad to worse. At least they had a chance at a few wins in CUSA. Eventually there will be a merger between CUSA and the Sun Belt. Some of the CUSA schools, UAB being one, favor a more regional conference. UAB would have Troy, South Alabama(who starts football in the Sun Belt next year) and Middle Tennessee all within 250 miles. USM, their nearest CUSA mate is Tulane and they are considering dropping football soon. With the merger they get ULL, ULM and Troy within 250 miles. Makes more geographical and financial sense.