10/21 News & Notes

Dan · Oct 21, 2012, 08:42 AM

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Getting a handle on Illinois basketball

Defensive pressure that led Groce's team at Ohio last season to finish third nationally by forcing 347 turnovers also created instant offense through transition.

"That combination is the reason Ohio, a MAC team, is an overtime away from playing in the Elite Eight last year," said Brandon Miller, a former Butler guard and Ohio State assistant who is Groce's special assistant to the head coach at Illinois. "That style of play is somewhat unique."

Be prepared for an offense loaded with ball screens and spacing, running the ball up the court and a defense that creates instant offense, even if Groce needs time to build a finished product.

Supinie

HoopCity · Oct 21, 2012, 09:18 AM

I have a request to the Illinois Loyalty forum.

I am going to a special 2 hour live segment of Sport Talk in Forsyth tonight and John Groce is the guest speaker.

I am looking for a few great questions to ask if I have the opportunity !!

Thanks, John

mikeyo25eugoh · Oct 21, 2012, 09:22 AM

Great article. I think we'll see some growing pains at the beginning of the season, but we'll see increasingly better play as the season progresses.

I'm excited for Illinois basketball, but i'm not expecting everything to be different on day one. I think we'll all be pleased by season's end.

DaytonIllini · Oct 21, 2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HoopCity

I have a request to the Illinois Loyalty forum.

I am going to a special 2 hour live segment of Sport Talk in Forsyth tonight and John Groce is the guest speaker.

I am looking for a few great questions to ask if I have the opportunity !!

Thanks, John

I'd be interested to know what his view of the PF is. Does he want a shooter or a bruiser? Or does he just adapt to whatever talent he has?

Dan · Oct 21, 2012, 09:45 AM

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Groce mining every nook for information

"They'll be posted on the locker room door each day and every player will know exactly where they stand," Groce said. "I think players want that."

Groce's obsession with statistical data will please the sabermetricians who have rewritten the way we analyze Major League Baseball, but there's an old school aspect to Groce's approach that will please the old-schoolers.

"We chart everything," he said. "But there are two parts to it. One is statistics. The other side is the coach's feel for how tough you are, how together you are, body language, all of the things that don't show up on the state sheet."

Tupper

Dan · Oct 21, 2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HoopCity

I have a request to the Illinois Loyalty forum.

I am going to a special 2 hour live segment of Sport Talk in Forsyth tonight and John Groce is the guest speaker.

Do you know what time starts, is this on WSOY? Thanks

RichBradIllini · Oct 21, 2012, 10:03 AM

"....and redshirt freshman Devin Langford is an intriguing possibility.

“He can handle the ball, and he’s looking for others,” Miller said. “That’s a quality not a whole lot of guys have. He’s constantly trying to make teammates better on the offensive end.”

Encouraging words on Devin.

justsomedude · Oct 21, 2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HoopCity

I have a request to the Illinois Loyalty forum.

I am going to a special 2 hour live segment of Sport Talk in Forsyth tonight and John Groce is the guest speaker.

I am looking for a few great questions to ask if I have the opportunity !!

Thanks, John

Is the defense he's using the same one he used at Ohio, or has it been modified for the B1G.

FeelYourPaign · Oct 21, 2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HoopCity

I have a request to the Illinois Loyalty forum.

I am going to a special 2 hour live segment of Sport Talk in Forsyth tonight and John Groce is the guest speaker.

I am looking for a few great questions to ask if I have the opportunity !!

Thanks, John

I'm curious to know which side of the ball JG feels that we are better positioned to play to his style this year. Offense (questions about ball handling basically, but may be bigger than just that) or defense (speed and attacking, are we tough enough?)

It is an indirect way of getting to the question of how much of "his team" does he feel that he has right now, also.

mdonsbach · Oct 21, 2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HoopCity

I have a request to the Illinois Loyalty forum.

I am going to a special 2 hour live segment of Sport Talk in Forsyth tonight and John Groce is the guest speaker.

I am looking for a few great questions to ask if I have the opportunity !!

Thanks, John

No question but will this be streamed online? Podcast? Would like to be able to hear his answers to any of the questions that get mentioned!

RecLeagueHero · Oct 21, 2012, 01:19 PM

Will he be holding a funeral for Bruce Weber? I kid, I kid.

I'd like to know if he likes to press, and if he thinks the personnel on this roster would lend itself to doing that.

HONDO3 · Oct 21, 2012, 03:23 PM

Will the defense be primarily man or some zone depending on the opposition and matchups?

IlliniSpine · Oct 21, 2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HONDO3

Will the defense be primarily man or some zone depending on the opposition and matchups?

Exactly. Primarily man w/ some zone...said in a prior interview...sorry, don't have link.

HoopCity · Oct 21, 2012, 04:02 PM

I have been told that Sports Talk with John Groce is going to be broadcast on WSOY 1340 am. Check it out from 6-8 tonight. Might also check out WDWS.

Dan · Oct 21, 2012, 05:05 PM

Live audio: WSOY Sports Talk with Mark Tupper.

Guests: John Groce, assistant coach Brandon Miller, Mike Thomas-

http://v5.player.abacast.com/v5.1/pl...x.php?uid=6326

Illini70math · Oct 21, 2012, 06:02 PM

Just started listening for hour two (wrapping up with Mike Thomas). Any recap of hour one would be great to read during the commercial breaks!

Dan · Oct 21, 2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Illini70math

Just started listening for hour two (wrapping up with Mike Thomas). Any recap of hour one would be great to read during the commercial breaks!

I'll post a recap if my attempts to record the show prove successful

Illini70math · Oct 21, 2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

I'll post a recap if my attempts to record the show prove successful

Fantastic! Thanks in advance if it works out, Dan!

Dan · Oct 21, 2012, 06:43 PM

John Groce lists the starting lineup were there a game today-

1 Brandon Paul
2 D.J. Richardson
3 Joe Bertrand
4 Myke Henry
5 Nnanna Egwu

OrangeAndBlue217 · Oct 21, 2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

John Groce lists the starting lineup were there a game today-

1 Brandon Paul
2 D.J. Richardson
3 Joe Bertrand
4 Myke Henry
5 Nnanna Egwu

i really like that lineup

Kramer116 · Oct 21, 2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

John Groce lists the starting lineup were there a game today-

1 Brandon Paul
2 D.J. Richardson
3 Joe Bertrand
4 Myke Henry
5 Nnanna Egwu

Ok so not much has changed since Friday.

Based on this, the rotation early would seem to be these 5 plus Abrams playing a lot as well as Griffey and Sam McL. That is 8 right there. We will definitely need at least 4 big men in the rotation, and that would give us 4 guards. It will be interesting to see who else emerges in the rotation, if anyone.

OrangeAndBlue217 · Oct 21, 2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kramer116

Ok so not much has changed since Friday.

Based on this, the rotation early would seem to be these 5 plus Abrams playing a lot as well as Griffey and Sam McL. That is 8 right there. We will definitely need at least 4 big men in the rotation, and that would give us 4 guards. It will be interesting to see who else emerges in the rotation, if anyone.

Langford has got to be that guy who can crack that rotation, i wouldnt be surprised to see someone end up not working out once they get in that real in-game play, and drop from the rotation

Dan · Oct 21, 2012, 07:08 PM

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Video: Interview with John Groce

http://www.channel1050.com/Interview...Groce/14577949

MountainmanMitch · Oct 21, 2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

John Groce lists the starting lineup were there a game today-

1 Brandon Paul
2 D.J. Richardson
3 Joe Bertrand
4 Myke Henry
5 Nnanna Egwu

Wow. That surprises me. I am excited that Brandon is displaying enough PG skills to merit being the initiator of the offense and Myke is rebounding and defending well enough to beat out Tyler and Sam. Since Tracy and Sam are high effort guys, that speaks volumes about how Myke and Brandon are performing in practice in these roles.

-josh- · Oct 21, 2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainmanMitch

Wow. That surprises me. I am excited that Brandon is displaying enough PG skills to merit being the initiator of the offense and Myke is rebounding and defending well enough to beat out Tyler and Sam. Since Tracy and Sam are high effort guys, that speaks volumes about how Myke and Brandon are performing in practice in these roles.

I think the plan is to use Brandon Paul in the top post pick and roll scenario and let him try to get to the rim. Makes sense actually since he's the best on the current team at taking the ball to the rack.

Oct 21, 2012, 09:18 AM	#2
HoopCity Posts: 78	I have a request to the Illinois Loyalty forum. I am going to a special 2 hour live segment of Sport Talk in Forsyth tonight and John Groce is the guest speaker. I am looking for a few great questions to ask if I have the opportunity !! Thanks, John __________________ Once Thad's right hand man, now his rival for the National Championship!

Oct 21, 2012, 04:02 PM	#14
HoopCity Posts: 78	I have been told that Sports Talk with John Groce is going to be broadcast on WSOY 1340 am. Check it out from 6-8 tonight. Might also check out WDWS. __________________ Once Thad's right hand man, now his rival for the National Championship!

Oct 21, 2012, 09:22 AM	#3
mikeyo25eugoh Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 39	Great article. I think we'll see some growing pains at the beginning of the season, but we'll see increasingly better play as the season progresses. I'm excited for Illinois basketball, but i'm not expecting everything to be different on day one. I think we'll all be pleased by season's end.

Oct 21, 2012, 10:03 AM	#7
RichBradIllini Posts: 91	"....and redshirt freshman Devin Langford is an intriguing possibility. “He can handle the ball, and he’s looking for others,” Miller said. “That’s a quality not a whole lot of guys have. He’s constantly trying to make teammates better on the offensive end.” Encouraging words on Devin.

Oct 21, 2012, 01:19 PM	#11
RecLeagueHero Townie Posts: 2,243	Will he be holding a funeral for Bruce Weber? I kid, I kid. I'd like to know if he likes to press, and if he thinks the personnel on this roster would lend itself to doing that.

Oct 21, 2012, 03:23 PM	#12
HONDO3 Location: Illinois Posts: 35	Will the defense be primarily man or some zone depending on the opposition and matchups?

Oct 21, 2012, 05:05 PM	#15
Dan Admin Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 25,908	Live audio: WSOY Sports Talk with Mark Tupper. Guests: John Groce, assistant coach Brandon Miller, Mike Thomas- http://v5.player.abacast.com/v5.1/pl...x.php?uid=6326

Oct 21, 2012, 06:02 PM	#16
Illini70math Posts: 1,670	Just started listening for hour two (wrapping up with Mike Thomas). Any recap of hour one would be great to read during the commercial breaks!

Oct 21, 2012, 06:43 PM	#19
Dan Admin Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 25,908	John Groce lists the starting lineup were there a game today- 1 Brandon Paul 2 D.J. Richardson 3 Joe Bertrand 4 Myke Henry 5 Nnanna Egwu