12/18 Games

trevdv · Dec 18, 2012, 05:49 PM

Some games of interest happening right now, some later on tonight:

- Halftime: Ohio State 31, Winthrop 30
- Halftime: Michigan State 32, Bowling Green 29
- Halftime: Kansas 39, Richmond 18
- Halftime: Purdue 27, Ball State 21
- 1st Half: VCU 34, Western Kentucky 14

- 7:00 CST: Miami FL (6-1) vs. UCF (6-2)
- 8:00 CST: Stanford (7-3) @ NC State (7-2)
- 8:00 CST: SMU (8-2) @ Utah (6-3)
- 9:00 CST: Denver (3-5) @ Wyoming (10-0)

Wyoming may actually better than most think. They beat a ranked Colorado team, and are still undefeated. We'll see how they do tonight against Denver. Ohio State was nearly trailing at half, but they seem to be pulling it together (at least a little bit). MSU looking sloppy too. And, well, Purdue is just...awful.

Botb9 · Dec 18, 2012, 06:00 PM

I don't feel so bad about our performances at home. OSU only up one at home vs. Winthrop? Bleh.

Botb9 · Dec 18, 2012, 06:15 PM

Michigan State has just not looked good at times this year.

Botb9 · Dec 18, 2012, 06:15 PM

Wow, tied at 40 with BGSU. 14:01 left.

FredrickFremont · Dec 18, 2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Botb9

I don't feel so bad about our performances at home. OSU only up one at home vs. Winthrop? Bleh.

Winthrop (@ OSU) = 296Kenpom
BGSU (vs. MSU) = 196Kenpom

trevdv · Dec 18, 2012, 06:20 PM

How is it that MSU is ok with going to Bowling Green for a game? Usually the little schools are payed to come to us! When is the last time we went on the road to a "small school" to play a game we would be heavily favored in? In 2009 against Utah (when they were in the Mtn. West)?

RichBradIllini · Dec 18, 2012, 06:22 PM

Wow. Didn't know Mike Davis was coaching at Texas Southern (1-9). TS @ Kansas St. and looking respectable.

trevdv · Dec 18, 2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RichBradIllini

Wow. Didn't know Mike Davis was coaching at Texas Southern (1-9). TS @ Kansas St. and looking respectable.

Leading by four with 12 minutes left til halftime.

Botb9 · Dec 18, 2012, 06:25 PM

BGSU has a chance to take a lead.

Botb9 · Dec 18, 2012, 06:28 PM

Wow if that prayer was answered the roof would have blown off. Instead MSU gets an and-1

TCTORNADO · Dec 18, 2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Botb9

BGSU has a chance to take a lead.

BG my alma mater!!

hooraybeer · Dec 18, 2012, 06:50 PM

OSU playing dumb down the stretch against Winthrop... will still win, but not by as much as they should have

RichBradIllini · Dec 18, 2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RichBradIllini

Wow. Didn't know Mike Davis was coaching at Texas Southern (1-9). TS @ Kansas St. and looking respectable.

OK, let me rephrase that. TS is awful but is respectably hanging with KSt. KSt should be blowing these guys out but TS only down 4 at half.

Kramer116 · Dec 18, 2012, 07:09 PM

Purdue is not good this season.

We absolutely need to find a way to beat them on the road to start B1G play January 2nd.

SteakSandwich · Dec 18, 2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RichBradIllini

OK, let me rephrase that. TS is awful but is respectably hanging with KSt. KSt should be blowing these guys out but TS only down 4 at half.

Not that i'm a mike davis fan but Texas Southern has played a fairly tough schedule. They have lost some very close games.

MTILLINOIS · Dec 18, 2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kramer116

Purdue is not good this season.

We absolutely need to find a way to beat them on the road to start B1G play January 2nd.

+1. I think it will be a good test. Conference game on the road. I think the B1G is going to be a killer for the conference. Let's see how it plays out.

mattcoldagelli · Dec 18, 2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kramer116

Purdue is not good this season.

We absolutely need to find a way to beat them on the road to start B1G play January 2nd.

Agreed. They're terrible. That needs to be a win.

LibertyIllini · Dec 18, 2012, 08:47 PM

VCU forced 32 turnovers today... 32! that's ridiculous...

Illini70math · Dec 18, 2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SteakSandwich

Not that i'm a mike davis fan but Texas Southern has played a fairly tough schedule. They have lost some very close games.

Davis can't coach free throws. His guys hit 46% from three (13 of 28) to keep it close (78 to 69), but Weber's smothering free throw defense held them to 40% (4 of 10) from the line. Maybe they need to step back from the line to shoot free throws, way back!

DaytonIllini · Dec 18, 2012, 10:05 PM

Weak sauce by OSU for sure.

TCTORNADO · Dec 18, 2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaytonIllini

Weak sauce by OSU for sure.

That's a good description of when you're favored by 30 and win by 10.

scubadunk · Dec 19, 2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by trevdv

How is it that MSU is ok with going to Bowling Green for a game? Usually the little schools are payed to come to us! When is the last time we went on the road to a "small school" to play a game we would be heavily favored in? In 2009 against Utah (when they were in the Mtn. West)?

Hawaii this year. Western Michigan in 2010.

zoggle101 · Dec 19, 2012, 02:36 PM

Why does Purdue suck? Sure it hasn't been a good season so far for this young team with only one senior contributor but Painter will have them ready for us without a doubt. I'm sticking to them finishing over a good Iowa team who will still make the tournament even with a 9th place finish in the B1G. That's right we're getting 8 bids this year. Purdue is NIT bound because they lost a heart breaker to Nova earlier in the season and didn't show up to beat a decent fringe bubble NIT, CBI lock Eastern Michingan Eagles team. The Bucknell lose isn't horrible at all but I do remember everyone saying how do you lose to the Bison even though many didn't realize Terrone Johnson wasn't playing plus they're a solid team anyway.

Winthrop was hitting everything from outside when they needed it last night and had beaten a good even though they're also somewhat struggling Ohio team who has a couple huge games left before conference albeit only by one point. The Eagles played solid ball last night and it should be noted. Luckily for the Buckeyes Deshaun Thomas went on a ten, twelve point run to fend off this pesky at this point in the season Winthrop team.

Dayton, the flyers have a couple huge non conference games left before they enter a deep A10 conference schedule. The A10 needs those wins if they want more than 3 maybe four teams in the NCAA.

DaytonIllini · Dec 19, 2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zoggle101

Why does Purdue suck? Sure it hasn't been a good season so far for this young team with only one senior contributor but Painter will have them ready for us without a doubt. I'm sticking to them finishing over a good Iowa team who will still make the tournament even with a 9th place finish in the B1G. That's right we're getting 8 bids this year. Purdue is NIT bound because they lost a heart breaker to Nova earlier in the season and didn't show up to beat a decent fringe bubble NIT, CBI lock Eastern Michingan Eagles team. The Bucknell lose isn't horrible at all but I do remember everyone saying how do you lose to the Bison even though many didn't realize Terrone Johnson wasn't playing plus they're a solid team anyway.

Winthrop was hitting everything from outside when they needed it last night and had beaten a good even though they're also somewhat struggling Ohio team who has a couple huge games left before conference albeit only by one point. The Eagles played solid ball last night and it should be noted. Luckily for the Buckeyes Deshaun Thomas went on a ten, twelve point run to fend off this pesky at this point in the season Winthrop team.

Dayton, the flyers have a couple huge non conference games left before they enter a deep A10 conference schedule. The A10 needs those wins if they want more than 3 maybe four teams in the NCAA.

I think Winthrop is one of the worst CBB teams there is. I believe the Winthrop win over OU was the biggest surprise of the season according to Kenpom.

I think we get only 7 NCAA bids this season. OSU, IU, UM, MSU, Minny Illinois, Wisky in that order. Nebraska, Iowa, PU, NU, PSU are out.

zoggle101 · Dec 19, 2012, 03:29 PM

Iowa can definitely make it with a .500 record maybe even at 8-10 in conference. They'd need one win in the tournament most likely if they do finish up 8-10.

Winthrop looked good last night but 25 ft 3 point shots were falling for them. It's a twenty point lose if they aren't hitting those. It's unreasonable to think any team is going to win all games by 20-30 points even against less than good low/mid major teams.

Anyone notice UIC had a huge letdown loss last night. They're going to have to win their conference even though a at large bid was unlikely even before the lose.

Don't worry about my feelings guys and let's make these discussions fun with arguments plus rebuttles!!

Matt my good friends call me weird all the time and it's no big deal. I do get. Little too personal sometimes and forget this isn't a closed forum. I'll cool down with the Zoggle life stories.

For all you fans who don't pay attention to future opponents. Auburn has had Chris Denson back for 2-3 games now and has been playing a lot better since adding him. The Tigers aren't a bubble team or even a fringe bubble NIT team but they are getting better as the season progresses. CBI isn't out of the question and they can pay themselves into the NIT. It should be interesting following them.

After an early season setback to the Florida Gulf Coast Eagles without two top players the Miami Hurricanes are running at full throttle even though they are still without Garius Adams who looks like will redshirt if it hasn't been announced yet.

Vanderbilt has Dai Jon Parker back and is finally at full strength. Watch out for the Dores in 13-14.

Another team struggling who I think will turn it around in the FSU Seminoles. They have the talent to make a run in conference that should x out too many early season let downs.

Nova is actually winning games and Utah had a huge win last night even though I don't think they keep it up when conference starts.

West Va. Has a huge game tonight that is a must win with 3 three more ages before conference starts that are resume worthy builders. They need to win four of their next five plus finish in the top 4 of the big 12 after their struggles early if they are planning on dancing. I think they can.

Dec 18, 2012, 05:49 PM	#1
trevdv Location: Champaign Posts: 2,616	Some games of interest happening right now, some later on tonight: - Halftime: Ohio State 31, Winthrop 30 - Halftime: Michigan State 32, Bowling Green 29 - Halftime: Kansas 39, Richmond 18 - Halftime: Purdue 27, Ball State 21 - 1st Half: VCU 34, Western Kentucky 14 - 7:00 CST: Miami FL (6-1) vs. UCF (6-2) - 8:00 CST: Stanford (7-3) @ NC State (7-2) - 8:00 CST: SMU (8-2) @ Utah (6-3) - 9:00 CST: Denver (3-5) @ Wyoming (10-0) Wyoming may actually better than most think. They beat a ranked Colorado team, and are still undefeated. We'll see how they do tonight against Denver. Ohio State was nearly trailing at half, but they seem to be pulling it together (at least a little bit). MSU looking sloppy too. And, well, Purdue is just...awful. Last edited by trevdv; Dec 18, 2012 at 05:55 PM.

Dec 18, 2012, 06:00 PM	#2
Botb9 Realist Posts: 3,205	I don't feel so bad about our performances at home. OSU only up one at home vs. Winthrop? Bleh. __________________ Hype is a self-serving beast that feeds on the hopes and dreams of fans.

Dec 18, 2012, 06:15 PM	#3
Botb9 Realist Posts: 3,205	Michigan State has just not looked good at times this year. __________________ Hype is a self-serving beast that feeds on the hopes and dreams of fans.

Dec 18, 2012, 06:15 PM	#4
Botb9 Realist Posts: 3,205	Wow, tied at 40 with BGSU. 14:01 left. __________________ Hype is a self-serving beast that feeds on the hopes and dreams of fans.

Dec 18, 2012, 06:25 PM	#9
Botb9 Realist Posts: 3,205	BGSU has a chance to take a lead. __________________ Hype is a self-serving beast that feeds on the hopes and dreams of fans.

Dec 18, 2012, 06:20 PM	#6
trevdv Location: Champaign Posts: 2,616	How is it that MSU is ok with going to Bowling Green for a game? Usually the little schools are payed to come to us! When is the last time we went on the road to a "small school" to play a game we would be heavily favored in? In 2009 against Utah (when they were in the Mtn. West)?

Dec 18, 2012, 06:22 PM	#7
RichBradIllini Posts: 92	Wow. Didn't know Mike Davis was coaching at Texas Southern (1-9). TS @ Kansas St. and looking respectable.

Dec 18, 2012, 06:28 PM	#10
Botb9 Realist Posts: 3,205	Wow if that prayer was answered the roof would have blown off. Instead MSU gets an and-1 __________________ Hype is a self-serving beast that feeds on the hopes and dreams of fans.

Dec 18, 2012, 06:50 PM	#12
hooraybeer Posts: 369	OSU playing dumb down the stretch against Winthrop... will still win, but not by as much as they should have __________________ *@showtime_lb is NOT* Leron Blacks twitter handle** JFG>>>HCTC

Dec 18, 2012, 07:09 PM	#14
Kramer116 Location: Chicago Posts: 9,679	Purdue is not good this season. We absolutely need to find a way to beat them on the road to start B1G play January 2nd. __________________ @TomCrean: I am doing great. I have been thinking about you alot since last weekend. A whole lot. How are you doing?

Dec 18, 2012, 08:47 PM	#18
LibertyIllini Posts: 109	VCU forced 32 turnovers today... 32! that's ridiculous...

Dec 18, 2012, 10:05 PM	#20
DaytonIllini Posts: 15,071	Weak sauce by OSU for sure. __________________ No nation can preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. -- James Madison

Dec 19, 2012, 02:36 PM	#23
zoggle101 Location: Spfld, IL Posts: 4,410	Why does Purdue suck? Sure it hasn't been a good season so far for this young team with only one senior contributor but Painter will have them ready for us without a doubt. I'm sticking to them finishing over a good Iowa team who will still make the tournament even with a 9th place finish in the B1G. That's right we're getting 8 bids this year. Purdue is NIT bound because they lost a heart breaker to Nova earlier in the season and didn't show up to beat a decent fringe bubble NIT, CBI lock Eastern Michingan Eagles team. The Bucknell lose isn't horrible at all but I do remember everyone saying how do you lose to the Bison even though many didn't realize Terrone Johnson wasn't playing plus they're a solid team anyway. Winthrop was hitting everything from outside when they needed it last night and had beaten a good even though they're also somewhat struggling Ohio team who has a couple huge games left before conference albeit only by one point. The Eagles played solid ball last night and it should be noted. Luckily for the Buckeyes Deshaun Thomas went on a ten, twelve point run to fend off this pesky at this point in the season Winthrop team. Dayton, the flyers have a couple huge non conference games left before they enter a deep A10 conference schedule. The A10 needs those wins if they want more than 3 maybe four teams in the NCAA.

Dec 19, 2012, 03:29 PM	#25
zoggle101 Location: Spfld, IL Posts: 4,410	Iowa can definitely make it with a .500 record maybe even at 8-10 in conference. They'd need one win in the tournament most likely if they do finish up 8-10. Winthrop looked good last night but 25 ft 3 point shots were falling for them. It's a twenty point lose if they aren't hitting those. It's unreasonable to think any team is going to win all games by 20-30 points even against less than good low/mid major teams. Anyone notice UIC had a huge letdown loss last night. They're going to have to win their conference even though a at large bid was unlikely even before the lose. Don't worry about my feelings guys and let's make these discussions fun with arguments plus rebuttles!! Matt my good friends call me weird all the time and it's no big deal. I do get. Little too personal sometimes and forget this isn't a closed forum. I'll cool down with the Zoggle life stories. For all you fans who don't pay attention to future opponents. Auburn has had Chris Denson back for 2-3 games now and has been playing a lot better since adding him. The Tigers aren't a bubble team or even a fringe bubble NIT team but they are getting better as the season progresses. CBI isn't out of the question and they can pay themselves into the NIT. It should be interesting following them. After an early season setback to the Florida Gulf Coast Eagles without two top players the Miami Hurricanes are running at full throttle even though they are still without Garius Adams who looks like will redshirt if it hasn't been announced yet. Vanderbilt has Dai Jon Parker back and is finally at full strength. Watch out for the Dores in 13-14. Another team struggling who I think will turn it around in the FSU Seminoles. They have the talent to make a run in conference that should x out too many early season let downs. Nova is actually winning games and Utah had a huge win last night even though I don't think they keep it up when conference starts. West Va. Has a huge game tonight that is a must win with 3 three more ages before conference starts that are resume worthy builders. They need to win four of their next five plus finish in the top 4 of the big 12 after their struggles early if they are planning on dancing. I think they can. Last edited by zoggle101; Dec 19, 2012 at 03:44 PM.