79illinois
- Winnetka, IL
This is great news. Welcome back, DJ Williams. Let's go beat Maryland!
So, nah in both cases.
I didn't read anybody running down the character of a 19-year old kid.
DJ plays hard when he wants.
He has only no one else to blame but himself.
Stop denying the fact that the kid has had a questionable motor and work ethic since his freshman year of HS.
At least in my case, I discussed his motor consistency problems, which have been discussed on this board since he committed to Illinois. And aren't exactly a secret since most evaluators were saying the same thing since he was in high school.
Goldeneye reference, nice!!
That would be Natalya, not Natasha.
Also, to stay on topic, I'm glad DJW is back, and hope it isn't just temporary until the end of the season. He has big time potential.
Shoot you are right....still a good movie though
Are you saying they're comparable?
The idea that the adult millionaire with total control of the program should be expected to endure some slings and arrows that the college students who bust their behinds for nothing shouldn't has always been very intuitive to me. It seems others don't feel the same way.
I wouldn't even have any problems with the thread -- if we were 8-9 right now -- I'd understand it completely. But after six games? Even after a bad defeat. It happens. It's not like we got waxed by 45 in the Final Four on national TV.
I know that thread exists on the board as a release value to keep the fire-the-coach anger out of the other threads, but I think for most of us in there its far more important purpose is more "we don't know how the next few months will go, but clearly there is a possibility we're looking for a new coach come March, and as informed fans we'd like to take a look at what's out there while there's time to really think and talk about it."
If it were up to me there would be a coaching carousel thread on both the basketball and football boards 24/7/365, just because the national coaching scene is interesting and important. But certainly someone who cares about Illinois Basketball ought to be aware of some of the prominent names on the market, even as most of us are hoping we win enough in the meantime to eschew that route.
I think for most of us in there its far more important purpose is more "we don't know how the next few months will go, but clearly there is a possibility we're looking for a new coach come March, and as informed fans we'd like to take a look at what's out there while there's time to really think and talk about it."
I don't know why you continue to denigrate the (potential) value of a 4-year scholarship in this way, especially since many of these kids would not have an opportunity to attend an institution such as this without it. Maybe you're just exaggerating for effect??? (I know, I know, it's a :deadhorse
Probably no more so than if they'd started a Fire Groce -uh, coaching carousel - thread six games into the season.
But I thought it was more surprising when people reacted as if DJW had already left the program for good when it was crystal clear that he hadn't.
Andrew Helregel @helregelsports 6m6 minutes ago
Loren Tate, Steve Kelly speculating that DJ Williams has transferred from #illini on pregame show. Not at game nor practice yest. per them.
Tate, Kelly, et al, should stick to reporting the news, ... not trying to make it.
I don't know why you continue to denigrate the (potential) value of a 4-year scholarship in this way, especially since many of these kids would not have an opportunity to attend an institution such as this without it. Maybe you're just exaggerating for effect??? (I know, I know, it's a :deadhorse
Per this, Kipper has all of 15 3's made (14 in HS, 1 in college) in live game action (don't have an aggregator for AAU stats, but not likely he has a large number in AAU and not HS), so I'm really not sure where this firm belief KN is a 3pt shooter is coming from. He appears to be more of a scrapper down low (tweener 3/4), and is certainly not a 2 at the collegiate level -- especially in this scheme.
Read my post correctly, I said he can hit the 3's and not that is he is 3 point shooter. Sean Harrington was a 3 point shooter. Kipper has NBA SG size and since you brought up high school. He often brought up the ball, similar to how Damonte played for Peoria. I would say say that is a good comparison with Kipper being bigger. Both can score in multiple ways including offensive rebounds. Kipper is going to defer shots and his game to Hill, JCL, and others. As the season goes along you will likely see more of his skill set. I've been saying this since last summer.
Dude, he's made 15 (that I can find evidence of) in his career, you're arguing semantics. There's no sample size that supports that he will consistently take and make 3's for us. 5 or less a season isn't even worth talking about. It's not even something that closed practice spectators have reported on.