Jeez guys, we're Kansas anyway, what's everybody complaining about?
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Look, I don't mean to sound glib, but these are all basically the same scenario. We hire a permanent coach and it either turns out well (best case scenario) or it turns out badly and we face a buyout situation somewhere in the indefinite future (worse case scenario). The only substantive difference is whether we make the hire now or at this same time next year. And I'm sorry but the facts that 1) there may be slightly more competitive market for coaches this season than most and 2) it could hypothetically turn off a potential AD candidate who doesn't care for the coach we hypothetically hire ahead of him simply do not justify the massive risks associated with a 16-month long interim head coach situation.
Better said than I, and in considerably fewer words :thumb:
And again, if stable chain of command is so important, why is an interim AD firing Mike Thomas and hiring a new AD?
If Thomas or Kowalcyzk hires a new coach, you can easily kick the AD can down the road to a new chancellor who can make direct, empowered decisions about everyone below them in the hierarchy as they see fit. If you get it right, no one is going to care who hired our awesome coach, and if you get it wrong, 2018 is just as good as 2016 to get your ducks in a row, and you don't have to decimate the roster getting there.
I'm done belaboring this. People either want to see the truth or they don't.
Who are these great AD candidates lining up for the Illinois job? I don't see any. All the names mentioned, from Michael to Wax, are not turning down the Illinois AD job because we hired Brohm or Babers instead of extending Cubit.
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EVERY hire is a gamble at best. This is kind of the go-to talking point for defenders of this decision, and it requires building the world's most impressive and unlikely strawman (the full-time Illinois AD who makes nothing but bulletproof hires).
So the best case scenario would be something great, and the worst case scenario is exactly what we have. Phew. Bullet dodged.
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I remember when that was top 2...
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Love that she's still learning about this process. Awesome. She makes sure to mention she talked with the president and board members, but doesn't mention our interim AD. I think it's pretty clear by now he did not want Cubit, but was powerless here. He gives another ho-hum answer to his hiring in this article. Glad we can let someone who is "still learning" make these major decisions but not someone who actually works in the AD and just might know what he's doing.
Cool, we have nothing to be fundamentally ashamed of!
Why are reporters not asking Wilson or Killeen how they justify firing MT but extend the same coaching staff who allowed the actions of TB to go unchecked?
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trying to figure if that's better than "it's not ideal", worse or about the same.
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While Illinois has a 5-7 record this season under Cubit, Killeen said it's not "anything to be fundamentally ashamed of. Of course, we want to win the Big Ten."
"I would make the case that the team has been competitive in all the games that I've watched," including Saturday's loss to Northwestern, he said.
"I'm very much looking forward to next season and the recruitment that coach Cubit will be able to undertake next year," Killeen said. "This is a time of rebuilding, and we've got great leaders in place. And I'm very comfortable with where we are right now."
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...d-ui-chancellor-we-needed-some-stability.html
"I would make the case that the team has been competitive in all the games that I've watched," including Saturday's loss to Northwestern, he said.
"I'm very much looking forward to next season and the recruitment that coach Cubit will be able to undertake next year," Killeen said. "This is a time of rebuilding, and we've got great leaders in place. And I'm very comfortable with where we are right now."
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...d-ui-chancellor-we-needed-some-stability.html
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Second and Chalmers is right. We are well and truly f**cked.
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Or, as most Illini fans would say, "wow, it's amazing that the score is somewhat close considering how incompetent our offense is. Wow, the B1G has some really bad teams this year,"
He also did not watch at least 3 of our games.
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well, you can't argue with clueless. I think that's the defense they've settled on.
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This is exactly where I'm at. As of right now, I don't plan on renewing my tickets or even going to a game next year. I'll still watch on TV, and follow these boards/twitter. However, I also deleted any official Illini accounts from Facebook/Twitter. Childish maybe, but every time I think of this situation it is just infuriating. To the point where seeing Bill Cubit's picture brings up irrational hatred. I'm glad it is only 2 years, I think he is a horrible coach.
Agreed, this just gets worse every day. Please wake me when this nightmare is over!
The collection of bad quotes should go on the back of the "Notdeal" T-shirts.
I'm a medium.
It was mentioned before in this thread, but where in the hell are the journalists asking these relevant and pointed questions that we are asking in here?
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