Exactly, Cubit should of been Plan E or F. The fact that we didnt at least see who we could of got is
Bill Cubit gets 2-year deal as Illinois Head Football Coach
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Exactly, Cubit should of been Plan E or F. The fact that we didnt at least see who we could of got is
I dont think we would have to buy him out. Isnt his contract not official until approved by the BOT?
Correct, and that is my lingering hope for salvation
Better draw a face on the nearest volleyball, because the rescue plane ain't coming.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
As much as I hate Iowa, what is not an anomaly is the stability and quality that Ferentz has provided their football program. This is his seventeenth year there. He is 127-85 overall with a Big Ten record of 76-60. If some coach was able to do that at Illinois we would carve his name in the side of Memorial Stadium or erect a statue in his likeness. Some fans were getting tired of him recently. From 2011-2014 Iowa was 26-25 overall and 15-17 in the conference. I wish someone could explain to me why Illinois could not establish a program at least as good as Iowa. They have had a lot of stability. Hayden Frey was there for twenty years and built a solid program. Ferentz picked up where he left off and is going to be there for at least twenty.
Kramer
- Des Moines, Iowa
I live in Des Moines, this state is enamored with Hawkeye football obviously more so this season, but overall every year. My place of employment has season tickets and I never have a problem getting rid of them.
There are no professional teams in the state and the interest in pro teams is divided between multiple teams in each major sport. Iowa State has interest too, but it is a majority of Hawkeye fans in my opinion.
I was in church on Sunday and they were doing a promotion for a education program with the church and to get people to take notice they played a video of someone entering Kinnick and hearing the crowd cheer. You would think I could have escaped the hawkeye crap going to church.... BUT NOOOO!!!!
I love Des Moines but sometimes it can get drowned out by the love of Hawkeyes.
There are no professional teams in the state and the interest in pro teams is divided between multiple teams in each major sport. Iowa State has interest too, but it is a majority of Hawkeye fans in my opinion.
I was in church on Sunday and they were doing a promotion for a education program with the church and to get people to take notice they played a video of someone entering Kinnick and hearing the crowd cheer. You would think I could have escaped the hawkeye crap going to church.... BUT NOOOO!!!!
I love Des Moines but sometimes it can get drowned out by the love of Hawkeyes.
Maybe they believe this is the best way of fixing the problems long term.
I agree with everything you said, except the part about erecting a statue. While we would certainly think that now, if we went through the same cycle Iowa has, we would be calling for our coach's head during the downturn as well. Fans are impatient idiots.
By putting off having to deal with it directly for an entire calendar year. It's a novel approach, I'll give them that.
I grew up near the Iowa border and they were definitely more avid than Illinois fans. I find that to be true at most other places. I assume if we could put together even an average program we would see that change. Right now, nobody outside the die-hard fans really cares much about Illinois football. I'm amazed at how many people in my area (45 minutes from Champaign) have no interest in Illinois football.
dgcrow
- Kelso, WA
I don't blame them. I've been an avid Illini fan for many more years than I care to admit (let's just say that I can remember watching Tommy O'Connell and then J.C Caroline), and I cannot remember ever being more discouraged than I am right now about the football program.
I guess i'm just not sitting here believing it's so black and white and Cubit is explicitly BANNING injured players from team dinners or something. You expect me to believe Dudek hasn't been involved in pretty much everything all year long? C'mon now.
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Haven't we learned not to immediately discount reports on how they sound after our offseason?
dgcrow
- Kelso, WA
It's the easy way out. So they took it.
There is no rational argument by which that is the case. There's just not. You smudge enough Vaseline on the camera lens and you can perhaps fool an uneducated observer that that's what the picture looks like, but it is not true.
There is nothing kicking the can down the road accomplishes that punting the can two years further wouldn't accomplish. Nothing.
Exactly. I mean I think the current administrators don't understand how college football works. They are probably looking at it from a pro-level standpoint and not considering the implications that retaining him for 2 yrs can have on recruiting. Don't they realize that recruits will not look favorably on coming to a school where the coach may be gone in 1-2 years? On top of that, Illinois' upcoming classes will probably be in the lower 1/2 of the B10. Cubit has inherited this group of upperclassmen that should be getting 7 wins and even Cubit managed to screw that up. I sure like Cubit a lot more than I ever tolerated Beckman but I thought it was just a poor decision to retain him.
That's certainly putting it mildly. If we finish better than 10th in the next 2-3 years I'll be amazed. Probably somewhere in the 12-14 range.
Right, only b/c we're talking a mid major coach at a power 5 school. Highly touted recruits have no reason to come to a school like ours given the type of coaches we possess and someone like Cubit doesn't have a history of producing NFL talent. It sucks that the administration doesn't realize this.
Cubit is a stand-up guy, much better ambassador than Beckman was but let's be honest, most coaches should win 5 games with the roster they had and probably should've won up to 7 games this season, so there was something left to be desired this year.
Plus, if we missed a 50+ yard field goal in the waning seconds of a game AND a top ten dumb play of the year by nebraska (also 5-7) qb from being 3-9. Im not taking those wins away. Im saying we were much closer to 3-9 than 7-5.
This is very true. The sad part is that we had the talent and the schedule to go 7-5 this year.
No, the sad part is that we had a roster well suited to be a foundation and a bridge to real, lasting success and we threw that away for absolutely no justifiable reason.
That's true too. They ended where they should've ended at. They are certainly far better than a 3 win team but were too inconsistent enough to be over .500.
To think that they would be rewarded with a bowl bid makes me remember why I dislike college football in the first place. I don't even want to see the team play anymore. Everytime I watch them, I expect them to lose and don't live and die with them like I do with the Bears or the Illini basketball team.
The coaching carousel is moving *now*. It seems improbable you could get another hire without actively looking at the end of the season.
Put me in with the crowd that's mystified by this.
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