Game Thread: Illinois at Michigan

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Sizzler22

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It's gotten so bad that I want this team to lose by more than less because I'm tired of hearing the typical Groce pressers and hope JW sees how big of a joke this basketball program has become.
 
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Second and Chalmers

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We execute our defense so poorly. How is a team predicated on intelligent, under-control close-outs to shooters so bad at close-outs? We did this well three years ago under the same staff! :confused::confused:
 
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Cheez

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Second and Chalmers said:
Illinois CAN be better than this. I think that's the word to use.
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We can't so long as we have John Groce at the helm and apathetic "fans" admonishing those who want better from a program that SHOULD be better.
 
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Vermilion Slim said:
OK guys, this is not meant to be snarky (sorry if it comes out that way) but I have some coaching questions (as only a casual basketball strategist) that I just can’t figure out. Some of this has been bugging me for a long time and some of this is just from the 1st half:

1.) Why do we play zone against a good three point shooting team? Isn’t the conventional wisdom of the zone to prevent inside penetration and dare a team to shoot over you? Were they playing a 3-2 perimeter zone and I just didn’t catch it?

2. Isn’t one of the main benefits of playing a deep bench to really push the pace and run down the other team? In that case why have we almost never pressed? I love, love, love using 10-12 guys, but it seems pointless to do if you are just going to run the same pack line defense and not try to push the pace.

3. Why would we ever have a line-up of Tate, Abrams, Jordan, Kipper, and Mav? It seems like such a bad offensive group (outside of Mav) that I just don’t get it.

4.Why would a coach play someone at the 2-guard spot who this year has a Big Ten FG% under 25% and a career 3pt% around 30%…. Especially when we have plenty of other options and ways to utilize our versatile 2,3, and 4 guys.

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5.Will officiating ever get better? There were some really rough calls both ways… I don’t think JCL has actually fouled, yet I believe he has been called for 3.
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Interesting questions, but from what I've seen, no.1, I'm not sure we have business playing man against anyone. Though our zone is bad too.
Wonder if Mav still thinks we're blue collar & Michigan is white collar. When your team is bad (probably even when it is good) best to keep your mouth shut.
 
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Cheez

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Sun Prairie WI
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IlliniFan17 said:
Oh how I wish groce would be fired immediately following the game..
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While that would make us viscerally feel better, it wouldn't change anything. We need change. Whitman will make that change at the end of the year.
 
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NunnBetter

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I know we are suppose to play defense but how about try some offense? I rather run and gun than watch this. Out shoot them is our only chance.


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radiodj

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Guys, its improvement. We're keeping it under 20 on the road!
 
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CoalCity

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Malcolm reminds me of Rich Adams dribbling off his foot like that.
 
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TCTORNADO

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Looks like no dance in 4 years for Morgan, Tate, & Hill. Last guys to do that Cobb, Bresnehan, & Judson
 
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