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coryfor3
frozenrope9190 said:
bleh, I'm off. :)

Well......THEN UMASS!! He won't run from the press conference, eh?
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I think the general consensus is that Groce might be a fit at Cleveland State or Miami (OH) where there are openings. I wouldn't look too far past Youngstown State either. Groce has the Ohio connections and he was at OSU during the same period of time as Jim Tressel.
 
#228      
Adnarel
Interesting.

Wonder if Groce is going to be relegated to an assistant position somewhere.
 
#229      
mattcoldagelli
Without even looking, I'm 1000% sure there's an IU fan somewhere saying Sean Miller's loss last night disqualifies him from the Indiana job.
 
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PNWIllini
I have a potential landing spot for John Groce: Seattle University. They just fired Cameron Dollar after 6 mediocre seasons. Groce would get to remain a head coach, and if he produced even regular NIT teams would be hailed as a success out here. In the WAC all you really have to do is come up with a way to beat New Mexico State, Grand Canyon and CSU Bakersfield. Dollar was a Romar disciple/former assistant, coached exactly like Romar does, ironically got fired a week before Romar did.

SU has been moderately successful since rejoining NCAA D1, they're no Gonzaga, and ironically they were denied membership in the WCC because of lobbying by Few and Gonzaga against them. Didn't want the Seattle area competition as "the Pacific Northwest Catholic basketball school."

Anyway, Groce could be a head coach and possibly resurrect his NCAA resume in a much shallower pond than most D1 conferences, with low expectations but decent payoff if he can show even some success. SU's fanbase went nuts 2 years ago when SU qualified to play Loyola in the CBI semi-finals. They're starved for anything resembling a winner. They play in front of 5000 in the old Key Arena and it's not a bad venue at all.
 
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Adnarel
Indiana is never going to find a coach they like because their expectations are unrealistic. The best #hottake I've seen on the matter was some tweet comparing Indiana's basketball program with Nebraska's football program in terms of current stature compared to what they used to be.
 
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FiveStar
PNWIllini said:
I have a potential landing spot for John Groce: Seattle University. They just fired Cameron Dollar after 6 mediocre seasons. Groce would get to remain a head coach, and if he produced even regular NIT teams would be hailed as a success out here. In the WAC all you really have to do is come up with a way to beat New Mexico State, Grand Canyon and CSU Bakersfield. Dollar was a Romar disciple/former assistant, coached exactly like Romar does, ironically got fired a week before Romar did.

SU has been moderately successful since rejoining NCAA D1, they're no Gonzaga, and ironically they were denied membership in the WCC because of lobbying by Few and Gonzaga against them. Didn't want the Seattle area competition as "the Pacific Northwest Catholic basketball school."

Anyway, Groce could be a head coach and possibly resurrect his NCAA resume in a much shallower pond than most D1 conferences, with low expectations but decent payoff if he can show even some success. SU's fanbase went nuts 2 years ago when SU qualified to play Loyola in the CBI semi-finals. They're starved for anything resembling a winner. They play in front of 5000 in the old Key Arena and it's not a bad venue at all.
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And the benefit of living in Seattle.
 
#236      
illiniguy24
Does anyone think Groce might take a year off and wait for other opportunities next year?


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#239      
TCTORNADO
illiniguy24 said:
Does anyone think Groce might take a year off and wait for other opportunities next year?


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Lickliter took a year off after Iowa and then became an assistant at Miami (OH).
 
#240      
PNWIllini
coryfor3 said:
Groce has no connection to the Pacific NW. There are many place he could end up but it isn't going to be there.
Brandon Roy maybe. Trent Johnson?
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Brandon Roy enjoyed coaching an all-star high school team full of transfers bending the rules... None of his star players attended Nathan Hale before this year, none will next year. High school one-and-dones.

Roy will be in an interesting position since the assumption around here was he was going to follow a few years in HS coaching up with moving onto Romar's staff at UW, where he's a popular alumni. Hard to see that working out now, though he may well become a part of a whisper campaign against Hopkins.

Hopkins is walking into a real mess. Romar's whole recruiting class and returning players are defecting, and first-year AD Jen Cohen has really committed to being responsible if Hopkins can't resurrect 6 years of moribund UW performance under Romar.

I'm sitting here in Seattle overjoyed at how our Illini coaching carousel is working out, because I have some really messed up ones playing out in front of me for other programs.

Go Illini.
 
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Second and Chalmers
illynifan34 said:
Interesting I see his salary listed at $1.5 million on Wikipedia. Are Big 12 schools not named Kansas that cheap when it comes to basketball?
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They don't have Big Ten money, he was hired under odd circumstances (Hoiberg left in June or whatever for the NBA), and the acceleration of coaching salaries keeps going up and up every year. $1.5 million was low but non-ridiculous when he signed it.
 
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illynifan34
Second and Chalmers said:
They don't have Big Ten money, he was hired under odd circumstances (Hoiberg left in June or whatever for the NBA), and the acceleration of coaching salaries keeps going up and up every year. $1.5 million was low but non-ridiculous when he signed it.
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Looking around at those schools he and Underwood might be the lowest paid. Huggins is strange I think he's taking less to stay at WVa and Beard didn't have one listed. Drew is compensated well as are Kruger and Dixon and Smart.
 
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FiveStar
Second and Chalmers said:
I'd have Underwood higher, but I agree in the same tier.
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For the fun of redoing lists, if I would have known Underwood was available, he would have been my overall number one.

1) Undy
2) Archie
3) Tony (admitted this looks less and less appealing as everyone is leaving UVa)
 
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Deleted member 10676
I think after this coaching cycle, with the money Cuonzo and Brad got, a lot of coaches are going to start looking underpaid. At least to themselves.
 
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Second and Chalmers
FiveStar said:
For the fun of redoing lists, if I would have known Underwood was available, he would have been my overall number one.

1) Undy
2) Archie
3) Tony (admitted this looks less and less appealing as everyone is leaving UVa)
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Ugh. Tony Bennett is the best college basketball coach under whatever age Bill Self is. You people are ridiculous.

But in that Archie/Marshall group, Underwood would have been an interesting one to place.
 
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