So everyone here makes fun of Missouri and other programs for being shady and now Illinois hires Orlando and is after Bragg Jr. New day in Illinois Athletics. I'm okay with it but let's not act like Illinois is full of saints.
there are programs that are downright dirty, and then there are all the others. There is no such thing as programs that are clean as fresh fallen snow
Football his its share of downright dirty programs as does basketball. Oftentimes there is no connection between this sleaze factor at the school that "supports" these two programs. I do not think we are downright dirty in either sport nor have we really ever been, but we do have a reputation, perhaps earned unfairly , perhaps it is fair , of being on the "not always clean" side of the spectrum. Maybe its due to our state, maybe its Chicago, maybe its the 1960's bs that was reinforced in some peoples minds due to football's 1980's issues and basketballs 1990's issues.
regardless , we don't live in a glass house. nor does ND, NW, IU, scUM, PedSt, nor O$U. I will never be so naïve as to think that we never , ever , do anything wrong. That program does not exist.