100% agree. MSU will always be competitive under izzo, so one more player is not a tipping point. NU otoh, I can see THT being a pain in our arse for four years.
I can handle that pain if at sparty, not so much the kitties.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (July-August 2017)
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100% agree. MSU will always be competitive under izzo, so one more player is not a tipping point. NU otoh, I can see THT being a pain in our arse for four years.
I can handle that pain if at sparty, not so much the kitties.
No on Pearson unless it is the only way to get Ayo. Conditt has offers from other high major programs. Pearson does not. Pearson plays for a more high profile AAU team, so he has had more exposure and still has no real high major offers.
Right now I think the staff sees Castleton as a higher priority than Conditt. Castleton has all of the skills to really excel playing out of that pinch post position.
Joel Goodson
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Definitely, but I don't think he's going that far. MSU, OTOH, is just a little farther than Evanston is, lol (Charlie Moore redux).
I just don't want to play the offer Kid-B and hope Kid-A comes along game.
IlliniDent
- Chicago, IL
I don't think this kid is a "B" option, more like a 4th or 5th option. And it's not as if kid A is a top 10 kid and Kid B is top 100. Most of our A options are around top 150- we should be able to land one
KrushCow31
Former Krush Cow
- Chicago, IL
Last time I saw this play out was Djax to Notre Dame and they offered Austin Torres as well, a 2 star teammate of Djax. I don't think ND regrets their decision. DJax was amazing and went to the NBA, and Torres in his senior year this year was first big man off the bench, played in every single game, started against UNC and is coming back for a 5th year (redshirted freshman year). I remember how hardcore we ripped into ND for offering "Kid-B" to get "Kid-A", and I think that situation worked out perfectly for them. Sometimes those "Kid-B" players can turn out to be a contributor by their senior year.
Source: I go to ND and watched most games this season. Plus Torres played against me in pick-up games at the gym this summer for whatever reason.
I read posts like this and it reminds me how the faithful have been scarred from the Groce years.
There's a new sheriff in town. While I can't vouch for Underwood, my opinion* is:
He's not going to place losing bets (i.e. if you're expecting stupidity, I think you're going to be happily disappointed).
He gets how recruiting works. Can't emphasize enough how he's dialed into the process, calendar, fit with his system, etc..
Don't judge him early. Let things play out, and let him work his relationships. Even after we have our guys, they'll be developed. I don't want to compare him to Bo Ryan, but Underwood has a much stronger sense of basketball identity and system, and I believe that he's going to do more with what he has than we've seen in quite a while.
This is a good staff. They will find more good options, which takes some of the pressure off.
*my opinion also comes with my amazing money-back guarantee. If you're not satisfied, you get a full refund.
How about the Bryant Notree (Kid-A) and Kevin Turner (Kid-B) situation? That ended up being a total flip-flop. Kevin Turner was a very nice player.
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TCTORNADO, I know that others have responded to your post, but could you explain, in plain English, what "Our offer...is non-commitable" means ?
Or Cletis Hubbard and James Griffin from Fort Worth Dunbar. Oh, wait...that isn't quite the same scenario...
IlliniDent
- Chicago, IL
I'm sure TC will respond as well but offers aren't first come first serve. This offer could easily be one to add to the hype of the player to help out the Fire rather than because we actually want the player.
It could also be one where if the player tried to commit we would tell him we need to wait to hear from some of our other recruits first before we would be willing to take him. This can be done by either saying it straight out, or by saying you want him to visit the campus and that they still want to see how his summer and fall continue to develop.
Offer's go both ways- players have to commit but the teams have to accept that commitment as well.
OrangeAndBlues
- Indianapolis
It means he can't actually take it. The offer is for show.
Just a small nit-pick here: St. Pat's is in the East Suburban Catholic Conference, not the Catholic League.
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TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
It means that if the kid called Underwood today and said "I want to commit", the staff would slow-play it. They might say "Great! But why don't we have you down for a visit first to make sure this is the right place for you." I've also seen recruits talk about how a staff really likes them, but there isn't an open scholarship for them yet, even when there are clearly spots open in the class. The staff is basically telling the kid that there isn't a spot unless other options fall through (without directly saying that of course).
This is a delicate game played by coaches. You want to "offer" a kid and make him feel wanted, but at the same time you don't want to take a recruit that is a plan C or D while your plan A is still on the board.
I'd also point out that this is much less black and white than people like to make out on this board and elsewhere. It's not like the staff is going to offer a kid, but tell him the offer is "non-committable". If that kid tells the staff that he wants to commit, the staff then has a decision to make based on where they are with other targets.
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Not a dig at you Indy, but I absolutely hate it when people say, "He Gone." It might very well be true, I've just always hated it.
OrangeAndBlues
- Indianapolis
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
I will assume you are not a White Sox fan. Or if you are, you prefer the radio broadcast.
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
I'm not optimistic on Ayo, so maybe don't write THT off yet...
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
Looks like he is blowing up similar to Hellems, maybe just slightly less - http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nate-Hinton-has-a-massive-day-101403042
and http://247sports.com/Bolt/Maryland-Offers-Another-North-Carolina-Recruit-101599869
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nate-Hinton-has-a-massive-day-101403042
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My thoughts exactly.
With Hinton getting an offer, wouldn't it be easier on our chart if we just list those who do not have an offer.
Seems likely that THT will be off the board before Ayo blows us off. Neither is probably the best bet.
FeelTheLovie
- Louisville, KY
Can we skip the annual "Wow Illinois sucks and we can't recruit with anyone" complaints that'll surely follow this saga?
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