FBI College Basketball Corruption Investigation

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mattcoldagelli

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Fighter of the Nightman said:
LOL, this made me laugh. :thumb: Beyond that, good post and I agree. I'd be lying if I said I weren't a tad nervous, but I would still bet on this not "officially" affecting Illinois or Coach Underwood in any material way. Fingers crossed.
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I mean, obviously we are posters here so this is where our mind is immediately going, but remember the following:

- we're not named
- none of our employees/staff are named
- none of our recruits/players are in the mix
- we're not an adidas school
- Evans' activities both pre- and post-date the one year Underwood was the coach at Oklahoma State
- this is the FBI, not the hacks at the NCAA (is anyone willing to be that the NCAA itself doesn't get implicated in some of these arrangements?)

Granted, those facts could change since this is day one of what will likely be a long unpeeling of a very pungent onion, but there are currently much bigger and more catch-able fish to fry.*


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The difference between the NCAA and the FBI.

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Sources: Basketball agency ASM Sports was raided today. FBI had warrant, took Andy Miller's computer.

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Unlike an NCAA investigation, the FBI actually has incentive to go after the big name schools.
Also, are we sure these asst coaches will so willingly sing? They're kind of screwed either way.
 
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I'm not in the legal field, but I can tell you this: If I suspect someone is dirty and I'm investigating him for a certain crime, I'm looking at everyone around him within the statute of limitations for that crime. Evans and BU coached for Martin at both SC and KState before BU left for SFA. If you're going to suggest that Evans did this at SC before he was at OSU, then you investigate how far back this goes and see who else you can get. They'll look at Frank Martin and his previous staffs to see who else was complicit and who knew what. If Martin truly didn't know, someone else on the staff had to have known. So then you start looking at the lead assistants. BU was Martin's lead assistant for a couple of years. They've investigated Evans and found enough to indict him. He'll be under immense pressure to give up what he knows on BU and . My guess is that BU has already been under federal investigation, or will be shortly, especially if the feds are snooping around Martin's coaching tree.
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This is just wrong. There were no allegations that Evans involved in paying players or families to attend a university - he only is alleged to have taken money to steer players to an agent. That really has nothing to do with a program cheating to be successful - thus this is not a guilt by association kind of charge and there is no reason to look into other related coaches. Further, I believe that the statute of limitations for most federal crimes is five years. BU hasn't been an assistant coach under Martin in that time. BU only gets brought into this if they had Evans wiretapped and BU can be shown to be complicit. If that were true, I think he would already have been named. Unless BU has ties to Adidas, I think that there is absolutely nothing to this story as it applies to Illinois or BU.
 
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EthanM said:
It could have been, but not from Trump. I think I read this investigation has been going for three years.
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Since 2015. Sounds like it all started by accident not by any organized push or investigation.
 
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Contrary to popular belief.... that NCAA will want this to go down as quickly and quietly as possible. If the FBI hits a few people they will get the programs that are obviously involved. Other than that you will not hear another word from them. Its time to protect the brand and the brand is sinking. You don't inflict more damage than already done.
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Agree that the NCAA will try and protect the brand.
Don't agree that's what they should do given people think they are a joke.
 
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Mike said:
This is a basketball thing not football (maybe yet), and maybe a reach but wonder if the FBI go ahead was a political call from high up?

Glad the FBI is stepping in since the NCAA is run by a corrupt bunch of clowns IMO.
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I am very confident there are no politics involved with this.
 
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On a related note, Bruce Weber just found out that there is probably some shady recruiting that has been taking place in college basketball...





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THAT is CLASSIC! I'll be chucklin' every time I look at that. Good one.


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With respect to bribes and the various programs...it is pretty well known that most of the blue chips really dont get their hands dirty when recruiting - the program sells itself. The smaller schools have coaches and assistants that are trying to move up the ladder...with everything to gain and very little to lose...and will sometimes do whatever it takes....where the big boys already sit atop the ladder and have everything to lose......
 
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LuckyLefty8 said:
With respect to bribes and the various programs...it is pretty well known that most of the blue chips really dont get their hands dirty when recruiting - the program sells itself. The smaller schools have coaches and assistants that are trying to move up the ladder...with everything to gain and very little to lose...and will sometimes do whatever it takes....where the big boys already sit atop the ladder and have everything to lose......
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You are either incredibly naive or a fan of Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, etc.
 
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Mike said:
Agree that the NCAA will try and protect the brand.
Don't agree that's what they should do given people think they are a joke.
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Not what they should do but its business as usual. The FBI will have their moment and then 3 years down the road handshakes will be had again.
 
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