Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (October 2017)

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BananaShampoo

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Phoenix, AZ
We nervously eye the upcoming singing period and Ayo. We keep half an eye on Bryan Penn-Johnson and keep tabs on Finke during his senior year.

Don't think BPJ is coming here but I suppose crazier things have happened. Like the past five hours.
 
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Don't think BPJ is coming here but I suppose crazier things have happened. Like the past five hours.
Yeah, hence half an eye. It got included for want of any other more visible targets for '18 at the moment. And no, of course I don't claim to speak for everybody, Indy.
 
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sacraig

The desert
Does anyone else get the feeling we might lose another committed player over this? I just feel horrible about this, and I don't mean because tht went to ISU

No. Why would we lose another committed player? We literally did this in order to not lose him.
 
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Ranks at the top of the strangest Illinois recruitment's in History.
 
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This has been the case for Illinois Basketball for as long as I can remember. To end up losing a top recruit, especially this way is disheartening. Yet Mizoo, a program thats been in the dumps for years now, hires a Coach and everything turns to gold. Unbelievable.

Way too early to anoint this.
 
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KrushCow31

Former Krush Cow
Chicago, IL
Oh my God. Who complains when you get a one and done recruit? The answer? Berg88 apparently. Also we didn't just get Ayo, we just aligned with the Mac Irvin Fire.

His point is how far did LSU get as a program because of their 1 and done? The answer? Not very.
 
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UofIChE06

Pittsburgh
Who would have thought OA would be the last assistant to reel in a big fish?


Not sorry to change the subject
 
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The only mistake for BU is that he shouldn't invite or host THT for that OV at all given the situation.



Maybe BU tried to call Irvin's bluff by hosting THT and seeking the commitment. Or maybe he walked into Irvin's trap to go ahead after THT, thinking Irvin was going to allow it. Either way, Irvin is Underwood's Daddy. I'm frankly pretty shocked Whitman let this happen.
 
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PJD86

Texas
His point is how far did LSU get as a program because of their 1 and done? The answer? Not very.


Because they had nothing besides him and a lousy coach

We have a really solid group next year, although fair point, lacking inside.

Not saying we cant finish out of the tourney, we could, but I just cant see it.

Anyway I think we can ALL agree we need more pieces
 
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His point is how far did LSU get as a program because of their 1 and done? The answer? Not very.

My point is Simmons represented a player, Ayo/Chin vs THT represented aligning ourselves with the most successful AAU team in the Midwest. The situations are only similar until the next Fire player commits here.
 
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skyIdub

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Running out of "next ones" for this class.

Yep, but i am having a hard time panicking after last week's Ayo commit. We're on the right path. "Next one" did not necessarily mean 2018 was critical.
 
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JJB

Chicago, IL
Last week Dosunmu committed to Illinois. It was a major recruiting coup for coach Brad Underwood and his new staff. But then things got complicated. As the week progressed and after the official visit it looked more and more like Horton-Tucker might choose Illinois.

The Dosunmu camp apparently never reached a point where they felt like they were comfortable playing with Horton-Tucker again, so the Illinois staff was forced to choose. They stuck with Dosunmu.

Illinois tried to get both players. It’s hard to blame the staff for that. When you have a chance at the two best players in the state and the Public League, you need to do everything possible to make it happen. But they should have realized before Thursday, ideally before Horton-Tucker’s official visit, that it wouldn’t sit well with Dosunmu.

In the end it left Horton-Tucker out in the cold and alienated Simeon, which has been a vocal supporter and consistent supplier of talent to the Illinois program through several head coaches. For Underwood and his staff, that is the wound that may wind up hurting the most in the long run.

https://www.suntimeshighschoolsport...linois-passed-on-simeons-talen-horton-tucker/
 
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Nobody wants to talk. Wonder why. Werner wrote a column similar to this that if anything came down harder on Illinois. I know I'm supposed to be happy we're in with the Fire. But I'm not. This is a sad day for this 55 year fan.

Michael O'Brien‏Verified account @michaelsobrien 5m5 minutes ago
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Why Simeon’s Talen Horton-Tucker didn’t wind up at Illinois: https://www.suntimeshighschoolsport...linois-passed-on-simeons-talen-horton-tucker/
 
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Im good with players walking, but I am in the minority Im sure. I guess I clenched the "no begging" approach to recruiting too much though. No one player is bigger than the team.

Regardless, I really do hope that we just launched a huge Chicago pipeline with this chess move....we wont know until Irvins are escorting there best players routinely to CU over the next few years. I am hopeful that this game will pay off.


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Bailey

Los Angeles
Man, O'Brien confirms ALL the worst.

How did this break so bad so quick?
 
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So we are exactly where we expected to be a week ago. The only regret is that I wish the staff could have realized it a week ago and saved some drama
 
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I Bomb

Stylin' and Profilin'
Not sure I buy into all the hidden strategy bunker drama - I think they just went for it and it didn't work out. But how they didn't know it wasn't going to fly earlier on in the process I have no idea. Would've saved a lot of time for a lot of ppl.
 
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Could it be that Ayo visited and liked Illinois more than the other schools and Talen visited, really liked it, but thinks ISU is a better fit for him? Does it have to be Machiavelli? Ayo seemed to be reaching out to Tay-tay. If I were Talen I'd want to stack a team up and make a run; either he wants to stay in state or not. I for one, wish Talen all the best! Good luck sir! I hope we beat the ever-loving snot out of your team in the tourney some day, but in a respectful, sportsmanlike manner. :)
 
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I Bomb

Stylin' and Profilin'
is it just me... or have we just not gotten much talent out of Simeon in recent years?

Was going to say the same thing - using the recent past as something we wouldn't dare mess up is not hitting any pain points with me... However, I do appreciate the historical Simeon relationship; hopefully everyone knows what the deal was but I can't speak to those guys' personal relationships (Smith v/ Irvins)
 
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Man you guys are killing me. You want be a national power again Or N.I.T and bubble Bruce??? Welcome to big boy recruiting. I'm taking Ayo 10/10 times. Plus pipeline to MIF the best AAU team in the city and state. Plus a 2020 kid that will probably be top 5 in the country by then. I see the big picture. Y'all just see a blurb. Welcome to the big time. Irvin's on our side which y'all clamor for years to happen. It's happening!!!
 
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skyIdub

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Sorry, THT never came out and said Illinois was his favorite. Dosunmu clearly did and spoke of it often. He visited more, he took his official earlier, and then committed right after.
THT took a calculated risk to leave MIF and showcase himself. UM and MSU never came calling. If Simeon wants to hold a grudge over a kid and his family miscalculating the timing and the consequences of their moves, so be it.
If the Dosunmu's and MIF hold a grudge against THT and his family/crew for leaving, maybe it's because they saw it as selfish and anti team/winning.
I would only have a real problem with the way this ended up if THT had been all Illini from the beginning. He clearly wasn't.
Now maybe the Dosunmu's statements about winning and doing whatever it takes make some sense to me, maybe directed at THT being more about himself?
 
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Nobody wants to talk. Wonder why. Werner wrote a column similar to this that if anything came down harder on Illinois. I know I'm supposed to be happy we're in with the Fire. But I'm not. This is a sad day for this 55 year fan.

Michael O'Brien‏Verified account @michaelsobrien 5m5 minutes ago
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Why Simeon’s Talen Horton-Tucker didn’t wind up at Illinois: https://www.suntimeshighschoolsport...linois-passed-on-simeons-talen-horton-tucker/
You think siding with the Irvin's will convince them to steer the top players our way rather than UK, KU, UNC?

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