yea we did pull out the rug the last minute....its been reported that way pretty plainly. no sugar coating it.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (October 2017)
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JFGsCoffeeMug
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Well, I wouldn't call what happened at his commitment ceremony happy tears.
As well they should.... message is loud and clear.... if you want a spot take it. THT could have committed months ago and was too interested in MSU and others. They went in different directions and someone took a ride that clearly didn't mesh with THT. The only unfortunate thing is this wasn't figured out Thursday or Friday last week instead of this week. I have no doubt UofI was not THT's first choice even if it was his choice earlier in the week.
Feel bad for the kid... but, he had ample opportunity. AMPLE opportunity to start the relationship earlier.
pruman91
- interviewing new NL's daily....I really really am
The staff messed up. They made the right decision for the long term health of the program but they need to make it a week ago and before THT's visit. If they would have done that it would be no big deal. Visits get canceled all of the time. They misread the situation and got greedy. They lost their bet. In the short term it looks bad, but if they win and Ayo/Fire help them get players. This will be quickly forgotten.
JFGsCoffeeMug
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This is the main thing I will hold on to in processing through this. For my own sake, I want to remember that a cost was incurred today. Maybe the cost is negligible for our program in the grand scheme of things, and maybe paying the cost was pragmatic when all is said and done.
But there was a cost. And that cost was borne mainly by a single kid from Chicago who wanted to play basketball for
.So nothing will change basically?
Glad we got an experienced Chicago guy on staff to help us “navigate” the tense and complicated world of Chicago basketball.
Greedy? No. Misjudged? Yes
the timing; don't let him visit
If they won't let us take him... then don't have the visit. don't make the push to recruit him all out and then take the offer away.
I don't like it, but i understand. and i don't blame illinois or the kid. be smarter than this... whitman plays smart; everyone else should too.
If they won't let us take him... then don't have the visit. don't make the push to recruit him all out and then take the offer away.
I don't like it, but i understand. and i don't blame illinois or the kid. be smarter than this... whitman plays smart; everyone else should too.
Big George was at Simeon today.
seem to have had a problem prior to this with his kid. lmao
Greedy may not be the perfect word. I think it was a certain degree of over confidence bordering on arrogance that they could do what no one else thought could be done. They were wrong and pay a slight PR hit. I think the hit won't be as bad as people are saying. Like I said these choices happen in recruiting all of the time, where they screwed up is realizing it to late. A week earlier and a is well. I do think their confidence will pay off someday when they land someone no one thinks they will get.
skyIdub
"I can't tell you. Secret."
I don't have to sugar coat it. We made a choice, just like he did. Just like Dosunmu did. Just like Conditt did. Just like Castleton did.
Just like Nolley did......TWICE.
Just like MSU did. Just like UM did. Just like KU, Duke, Kansas, etc....etc....etc. blah blah blah.
Kids and programs make choices.
Everybody is touched by his tears now? I get it, but it is what it is. It's a game. Everybody has to play. Everybody chooses how they want to play it. We want to play it in Chicago AAU/CPL. Ok. Play ball.
Choices. Consequences.
The O&B article spells it out pretty well.
Terrific
So now there are three types of offers?
"Committable"
"Non-Committable"
ad "Committable*" where * is "subject to the approval of the handlers of the highest ranked commit in the current recruiting class"
And to think just last week I was having trouble with delineating between the first two. . .
"Committable"
"Non-Committable"
ad "Committable*" where * is "subject to the approval of the handlers of the highest ranked commit in the current recruiting class"
And to think just last week I was having trouble with delineating between the first two. . .
You can't really blame BU for trying though. He really wanted THT and thought he could get it worked out and was wrong. He'll hopefully learn from it moving forward.
And as far as future recruiting...the staff will spin this story so it doesn't look so bad. They'll say they were in an impossible situation and simply had to do what's best for the program. In the end, I think most of the blame will point directly at the Irvin's and most high school programs will have nothing against BU. Hopefully that includes Robert Smith but only time will tell.
Yes, because Conditt's dad is such a huge influence on Chicago recruits.:huh:
Chin and AO know how to recruit and BU knows how to win. We'll be fine.
This was a bad PR day but lets not pretend that this if the first offer ever pulled from a recruit. It happens all of the time in recruiting for many reasons. This one stands out because of the timing. Once again, if this happens a week ago no one blinks. Yes there may be some ramifications at Simeon but most of the other recruits will move on quickly. They will all do what is in their own best interest as they should. I don't think it will hurt it the long term. If anything the new potential loyalty of the Fire combined with players wanting to play with Ayo will lead to more recruits.
The same reason they always have, exposure. The MIF play at the highest level of AAU and give recruits a tremendous platform to promote themselves. Players will still join because it is in their best interest. The Fire will be fine.
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