Illinois Coaching Staff Search

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froggy101

Chicago, IL
The waiting/posting period is one of the most hamstringing things I have ever heard of. Who thinks this stuff up?!

I believe this requirement comes from legal/governmental regulations because the opening is a position at a public university. it doesn't prevent any decisions from being made, though.
 
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The waiting/posting period is one of the most hamstringing things I have ever heard of. Who thinks this stuff up?!

The State of Illinois, I believe. UoI is subject to certain rules/laws of the State, the UoI employees being State employees.
 
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Illini TJ

Omaha, Nebraska
The same Kendal Briles whose dad actively worked with administration and law enforcment to cover up 50+ rapes by 30+ players? For an average of MORE THAN ONE RAPE PER PLAYER.

Or the guy who asked black recruits if they liked white women cause Baylor has a ton and they love football players?

Yeah that one
 
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BZuppke

Plainfield
So the Champaign Room said Lovie will want to run the pro style offense. Is this consistent with what we’ve been recruiting? I thought we wanted a dual threat QB. Out of the pro style?
 
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Man, I would swing for the fences with Sumlin, but he's got 60 million reasons not to do it thanks to his agent/amazing contract.

The ex Oregon HC guy is a good option
 
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The waiting/posting period is one of the most hamstringing things I have ever heard of. Who thinks this stuff up?!

Probably a good idea to force elected or appointed government officials to let the rest of the world know that there is a position available before they give it to one of their insiders, without consideration of merit.
 
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It will, almost assuredly, be someone Lovie has worked with in the past or has been near in some capacity. It won't be out of left field IMHO.
 
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It will, almost assuredly, be someone Lovie has worked with in the past or has been near in some capacity. It won't be out of left field IMHO.

Champaign Room breaks down the Lovie Coaching Tree

https://www.thechampaignroom.com/20...ni-football-lovie-smith-coaching-tree-options

Personally I'm on the Bajakian train. I get that the high speed Offense may hurt Lovie's D but 3 and outs do way more damage.

Spencer fits the Nickerson mold. No prior coordinating experience but long Lovie ties.

Goodwin seems like a pro guy through and through, just can't see that one.

Boras has experience in both NFL and College, but has been away from College a long time
 
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Champaign Room breaks down the Lovie Coaching Tree

https://www.thechampaignroom.com/20...ni-football-lovie-smith-coaching-tree-options

Personally I'm on the Bajakian train. I get that the high speed Offense may hurt Lovie's D but 3 and outs do way more damage.

Out of those mentioned, he would be my pick too.

With eight seasons of offensive coordinator experience, Bajakian is the most “college experienced” offensive coordinator option on the “Love Smith Coaching Tree.”
 
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Illini TJ

Omaha, Nebraska
Any thoughts on Pep Hamilton? He has Lovie ties as well.
 
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A Lot to Like

Honestly, I see all of the OC's mentioned in the Champaign Room Article as considerable upgrades. I'd be happy with any one of them.

One aspect that would tip the scale for me would be recruiting prowess. I didn't see anything about that in the article.
 
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How about Kendal Briles? He knows Texas and Lovie obviously wants to recruit there.


Well, that would free up my Saturdays nicely. I wouldn't watch a minute of Illinois football with that guy on our sideline.

(obviously we won't be hiring him)
 
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SampsonRelpenk

Edwardsville, IL
Even if McGee were returning, QB would still be a huge question mark. I just hope whoever replaces him will have use for these big mauler/road-grader offensive lineman we've been recruiting.
 
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Champaign Room breaks down the Lovie Coaching Tree

https://www.thechampaignroom.com/20...ni-football-lovie-smith-coaching-tree-options

Personally I'm on the Bajakian train. I get that the high speed Offense may hurt Lovie's D but 3 and outs do way more damage.

Spencer fits the Nickerson mold. No prior coordinating experience but long Lovie ties.

Goodwin seems like a pro guy through and through, just can't see that one.

Boras has experience in both NFL and College, but has been away from College a long time

Nice summary, thanks for sharing.

I like Bajakian Too, based on experience at both college and NFL levels.

One of the knocks on McGee, prior to arrival in CU, was whether or not he truly had OC experience. IOW, it was Petrino making all the offensive calls. The results here seems to confirm that lack of experience. For that reason, Spencer and Boras scare me. I would like to see some OC experience in our new oc :D
 
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I know Lovie has been around the block and knows a ton of people but I hate the "Lovie has to know him" line of thinking, whether he actually thinks that way or not. Get the best guy for the job. Period. Obviously make sure he and Lovie won't come to blows on the sideline but if he can score points get him and let him do his thing and have Lovie keep his beak out of it. I just don't want to have to start completely from scratch from a recruiting/personnel standpoint so get someone who's flexible. Don't try to turn a running QB into a guy who needs to throw 50x a game for your system to be successful or vice versa.
 
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I know Lovie has been around the block and knows a ton of people but I hate the "Lovie has to know him" line of thinking, whether he actually thinks that way or not. Get the best guy for the job. Period. Obviously make sure he and Lovie won't come to blows on the sideline but if he can score points get him and let him do his thing and have Lovie keep his beak out of it. I just don't want to have to start completely from scratch from a recruiting/personnel standpoint so get someone who's flexible. Don't try to turn a running QB into a guy who needs to throw 50x a game for your system to be successful or vice versa.

To be fair, this concept is not a Lovie thing. It is pretty common for head coaches to have or want some prior relationship or at least to come highly recommended from a trusted source.
 
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No I get that, just don't want to limit the search too much, especially since Lovie wouldn't know a successful offense if it bit him on the nose. BUT I will say he's better than some of our past coaches in that he's shown he's able to fire people he's got connections to if they're not getting it done and that's a breath of fresh air.
 
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Glory Days

Palmetto, FL
Funny how people on line think that a dual threat quarterback cannot work well in a pro-style offense.

John Elway
Mike Vick
Fran Tarkenton
Roger Staubach
Dak Prescott

Lovie has recruited big, nasty brawlers for the offensive line. NFL types. Beckman and Cubit were recruiting smaller, quicker linemen....spread offensive linemen who operate well in space.

Lovie wants a pro-style offense predicated on running the football, play action passing and ball-control. Happy to play the field position game all day long and allow his defense to cover a longer field rather than a shorter one.

Just because MJ Rivers, Coran Taylor, Cordell Littlejohn, Quincy Patterson, and the Irons kid are all mobile doesn't mean that they can't grasp pro-style concepts....Remember, all these kids want to play in the NFL. Lovie wants future NFL players to raise the expectation and performance levels. These young kids know that their ability to move in the pocket and extend plays as well as occasionally run the ball is going to be their ticket to the NFL.

Please don't worry that we have spread offensive type players, because simply, we don't.
 
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Peoria Illini

Peoria, IL
Seeing Taylor play live and Rivers on tape, both of those young men have the arm strength and throw a nice ball to thrive in a pro style offense. And yes, their athleticism will extend plays and create problems for the defense on "broken" plays. Can't speak to Littlejohn and Patterson, but I don't see a problem at QB with a pro style coordinator.
 
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I would also add, IMHO, a pro style offense might be more attractive to recruits, IF it can be shown they are more ready, or more quickly ready, for the NFL.

One of the reasons I love a pro style offense is versatility. You can recruit all skill positions for example, because they are utilized. One of the knocks of the spread offense is players, qbs and even some wrs, are not ready to read defenses as well,and therefore have a steep learning curve in the NFL. Hopefully, this pro style offens can slope become a recruiting tool.

Just need the right OC to run it.
 
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froggy101

Chicago, IL
Pep Hamilton would be great if he could be convinced.

Hamilton is currently making > $1million a year with UM. One would think we would need to match or beat that, which would be a significant increase from what McGee was making. Not saying it couldn't happen, just pointing that out.
 
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