That's exactly right. When Jontay goes pro, Sr. is outta there.
Jontay will go pro, I believe long term he might end up having a better NBA career than his more popular/talented brother due to skill set, size etc
That's exactly right. When Jontay goes pro, Sr. is outta there.
Still can't believe Mack is heading for Louisville with all of the bs that is surrounding the bball programKhalil Whitney with an offer from Mack and Louisville. That didn't take long.
My question is show in the hell did Cuonzo win 20 games his first year without his best player. And they were in a lot deeper funk than we were. Coach Brad Underwood can outcoach him. I sure don't think It is going to take 3 years for BU to get us on the path we want.
I doubt Porter is there long with his kids off to the NBA. Why would he even want to be there at that point?
A couple of bullet points that need to be listed to try and minimize the amount of bottom lips hanging out.
1. Program was declining rapidly with the previous coach
2. Staff is working their tails off to land recruits that they feel will work for their style of play
3. **Most importantly, the recruits are 17 and 18 yr kids, give them a freaking break on their decision making time frame.
I agree. He's not getting a lot of buzz from this board, but I think he will be a contributor next season. Heard his dad interviewed recently, but I don't remember by whom. Bottom line was he has been pushed hard by his dad and that's part of the reason they liked Underwood. They think he will get the most out of him (Griffin).Nice article by Prince in regards to Griffin, love the kids stance:
"That’s all fine where they have me. I know this: I will bring in shooting to Illinois, and rankings will not matter then,” Griffin said. “Put me up against any other wing in my class, and I’m beating him.Video footage of Griffin makes it look as though he can shoot it, and he is that long athlete Underwood could put on the court with Trent Frazier, Ayo Dosunmu, Aaron Jordan and Da’Monte Williams.Gotta love that attitude coming into the fold!
http://qconline.com/sports/college_...cle_8de1367d-9d20-51ed-827e-c8c7d6b14ac4.html
Because he has been a coach almost his entire life. Why would he want to leave?
Why?
To pacify message board posters who revel in whining about how bad things are?
Everybody is aware that this past season was rough, and everybody is aware that we're undergoing serious roster turnover. But if we get somebody like Tevian Jones and/or Hinson to join a class with a 5* Chicago PG, then it becomes quite apparent that we are cleaning our house of kids that don't really fit our style, and bringing in kids that do.
This isn't unprecedented. Look at Frank Martin's rebuild at South Carolina. His first three seasons consisted of 14, 14, and 17 wins with lots and lots of turnover.
Look at Beilein at Michigan. His first season was a 10-win season -- a significant drop-off from what Amaker was doing before him. He rebounded in year two, but then year three was another disaster.
Matt Painter won 9 games his first year at Purdue.
Tony Bennett's first two seasons at UVA: 15-16, and 16-15.
Jay Wright's first three years at Villanova: 19, 15, and 18 wins -- all NIT bids.
Mick Cronin's first four years at Cincinnati: 11, 13, 18, and 19 wins -- no NCAA tournaments.
Rick Barnes' first two years at Tennessee: 15 and 16 wins.
Gregg Marshall's first two years at Wichita State: 11 and 17 wins.
Scumbag Pearl's first three seasons at Auburn: 15, 11, and 18 wins.
This is not unusual. And Illinois' situation isn't unique. We need to get a LOT better, but no......we don't need to wage some PR blitz to control the bleeding. This is what happens when non-elite programs rebuild.
On Griffin....I think he may be the "trent frazier" of this class. Meaning that TF was more less second fiddle to MS expectations. No one expected what we got from TF. I dont know if Griffin will have TF-like numbers as a Freshman, but I have a really good feeling,.. expecting AG to be an "impact player" vs a "contributor". We ll see.I agree. He's not getting a lot of buzz from this board, but I think he will be a contributor next season.
Some bottom lips will continue to hang outJeez I hate defending coaches I'm glad we no longer have like Weber and Groce, but Groce's last class was probably his best. To say we were rapidly declining is not accurate. I don't know what the ranking would have been with Tilmon signed and Mark Smith likely to sign, but it would have been pretty darn good. We probably would have been better this year under Groce, but still likely to miss the tourney.
On Griffin....I think he may be the "trent frazier" of this class. Meaning that TF was more less second fiddle to MS expectations. No one expected what we got from TF. I dont know if Griffin will have TF-like numbers as a Freshman, but I have a really good feeling,.. expecting AG to be an "impact player" vs a "contributor". We ll see.
On Griffin....I think he may be the "trent frazier" of this class. Meaning that TF was more less second fiddle to MS expectations. No one expected what we got from TF. I dont know if Griffin will have TF-like numbers as a Freshman, but I have a really good feeling,.. expecting AG to be an "impact player" vs a "contributor". We ll see.
Why?
To pacify message board posters who revel in whining about how bad things are?
Everybody is aware that this past season was rough, and everybody is aware that we're undergoing serious roster turnover. But if we get somebody like Tevian Jones and/or Hinson to join a class with a 5* Chicago PG, then it becomes quite apparent that we are cleaning our house of kids that don't really fit our style, and bringing in kids that do.
This isn't unprecedented. Look at Frank Martin's rebuild at South Carolina. His first three seasons consisted of 14, 14, and 17 wins with lots and lots of turnover.
Look at Beilein at Michigan. His first season was a 10-win season -- a significant drop-off from what Amaker was doing before him. He rebounded in year two, but then year three was another disaster.
Matt Painter won 9 games his first year at Purdue.
Tony Bennett's first two seasons at UVA: 15-16, and 16-15.
Jay Wright's first three years at Villanova: 19, 15, and 18 wins -- all NIT bids.
Mick Cronin's first four years at Cincinnati: 11, 13, 18, and 19 wins -- no NCAA tournaments.
Rick Barnes' first two years at Tennessee: 15 and 16 wins.
Gregg Marshall's first two years at Wichita State: 11 and 17 wins.
Scumbag Pearl's first three seasons at Auburn: 15, 11, and 18 wins.
This is not unusual. And Illinois' situation isn't unique. We need to get a LOT better, but no......we don't need to wage some PR blitz to control the bleeding. This is what happens when non-elite programs rebuild.
Nice article by Prince in regards to Griffin, love the kids stance:
"That’s all fine where they have me. I know this: I will bring in shooting to Illinois, and rankings will not matter then,” Griffin said. “Put me up against any other wing in my class, and I’m beating him.Video footage of Griffin makes it look as though he can shoot it, and he is that long athlete Underwood could put on the court with Trent Frazier, Ayo Dosunmu, Aaron Jordan and Da’Monte Williams.Gotta love that attitude coming into the fold!
http://qconline.com/sports/college_...cle_8de1367d-9d20-51ed-827e-c8c7d6b14ac4.html
I agree. He's not getting a lot of buzz from this board, but I think he will be a contributor next season. Heard his dad interviewed recently, but I don't remember by whom. Bottom line was he has been pushed hard by his dad and that's part of the reason they liked Underwood. They think he will get the most out of him (Griffin).
On Griffin....I think he may be the "trent frazier" of this class. Meaning that TF was more less second fiddle to MS expectations. No one expected what we got from TF. I dont know if Griffin will have TF-like numbers as a Freshman, but I have a really good feeling,.. expecting AG to be an "impact player" vs a "contributor". We ll see.
Jeff Goodman
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Xavier commit Evan Boudreaux, who averaged 17.5 points and 9.5 boards last season, told ESPN he will re-open his recruitment. Grad transfer with two years remaining.
1:49 PM - 27 Mar 2018
Time for some IllinoisLoyalty after dark. There is some chatter on social media that we may be hearing some positive news about Ramey later today.
*paging BrooksTaylorFan*Time for some IllinoisLoyalty after dark. There is some chatter on social media that we may be hearing some positive news about Ramey later today.
Cuonznoz is going to have to start creaning coaches
*paging BrooksTaylorFan*