Whitney alone gets us back to the sweet sixteen.
NCAA or NIT????
Whitney alone gets us back to the sweet sixteen.
Whitney alone gets us back to the sweet sixteen.
Adding just Whitney in addition to our current roster developing**
What's going on with Parker Braun? I was talking to an Attorney friend that's close to the program that said the staff feels he will be an Illini. Anyone else hearing anything like that? I like what I've read and seen on him.
I figured that was what you meant.
I mean seriously, how can we not think this roster, over the next two years, plus adding Whitney, wouldn't be a tourney team/potential SW16 contender?
If it isn't, we have failed miserably.
That being said, the goal is to win titles, per Josh. To win titles, more will be needed, I think we can all agree. But we have to start somewhere.
Because we didn't even get close to making the NIT let alone the NCAA this year and we are adding a bunch of developmental talent this year. Adding a single top 30 freshman will not be enough of a jump to suddenly make us a sweet 16 contender. Whitney is great and will be a fantastic player but he will need time to develop just like almost all freshmen do. We are in a massive hole right now and are taking the long developmental route to getting out of it. I am optimistic it will work but I think it's going to be a bumpy ride getting there as players develop. Even if we add Whitney, Liddell, and Kofi, they are all still going to be freshmen that year. While they would all contribute, they will need time to develop and adapt. None of the guys we have a shot at are top 10 talent, and as we've seen in the past, almost everyone takes time to develop despite what we all may want.
You dont have to be a top ten talent to make significant contributions. Having followed the Illimi since the 70s. It's almost as frequent that one of the lower rated recruits often surprises us like TF. While you are correct that most freshmen dont make significant impacts I do feel that with a recruiting class of this size and the playing time available to them to gain experience I have faith one or two of this years new recruits could pop. Plus, Feliz brings experience as a incoming junior.Because we didn't even get close to making the NIT let alone the NCAA this year and we are adding a bunch of developmental talent this year. Adding a single top 30 freshman will not be enough of a jump to suddenly make us a sweet 16 contender. Whitney is great and will be a fantastic player but he will need time to develop just like almost all freshmen do. We are in a massive hole right now and are taking the long developmental route to getting out of it. I am optimistic it will work but I think it's going to be a bumpy ride getting there as players develop. Even if we add Whitney, Liddell, and Kofi, they are all still going to be freshmen that year. While they would all contribute, they will need time to develop and adapt. None of the guys we have a shot at are top 10 talent, and as we've seen in the past, almost everyone takes time to develop despite what we all may want.
Because we didn't even get close to making the NIT let alone the NCAA this year and we are adding a bunch of developmental talent this year. Adding a single top 30 freshman will not be enough of a jump to suddenly make us a sweet 16 contender. Whitney is great and will be a fantastic player but he will need time to develop just like almost all freshmen do. We are in a massive hole right now and are taking the long developmental route to getting out of it. I am optimistic it will work but I think it's going to be a bumpy ride getting there as players develop. Even if we add Whitney, Liddell, and Kofi, they are all still going to be freshmen that year. While they would all contribute, they will need time to develop and adapt. None of the guys we have a shot at are top 10 talent, and as we've seen in the past, almost everyone takes time to develop despite what we all may want.
According to kenpom we were right on the cusp of being a top 100 team. Our record made it seem like we were worse but we weren't as awful as some people think.
According to kenpom we were right on the cusp of being a top 100 team. Our record made it seem like we were worse but we weren't as awful as some people think.
I don't think we were awful, I just meant that Whitney alone won't be what makes us a sweet 16 team. 100% we should be a tourney team by that point but we have a ton of unknowns going forward. We have the chance to be a sweet 16 team but Whitney won't be the one that puts us over the edge his freshman year as he plays a position that we will already have some depth at.
sounds good....need our "rim potential rim protector...i.e Kane to develop and perform early. Need Kane's best Egwu impersonation in a big way (pun intended)
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You're right, he should be planning on 4.
Kofi Cockburn is a bad dude. Reminds me of a Mahorn, Oakley, Mason type big. Best comparison might be Nas Reid, but Cockburn probably 2 inches taller.
Cockburn and Whitney would solidify the team in a major way.
He's a really really good player. He's not a 5 star or a one and done though. His size is a problem for the NBA.Really? I guess I need to watch more film. Everyone made him out to be the next superstar a month or two ago.
True, but Parker Braun commit tomorrow gives us a piece to the 2018 puzzle . That would leave us 3 schollies for 2019 .Will we go for 5th year grad, or roll the ride? One good big grad would be great, and still give us a ride for 2019. Decisions, decisions . Hope June 11 finds us with the right group!
Really hope we get that commit. I'd hate for the staff to spend the summer looking for another 18.
Beginning to think we may roll a scholarship. Especially if we get Braun.
Underwood has stated previously that he’s not a big fan of 5th years. Obviously it is part of the game now and Underwood has participated (Alstork) but the idea of playing a guy who doesn’t know your system and will be gone at the end of the year isn’t the best formula for success. Bad 5th year pickups in lieu of solid HS recruiting really hurt Groce. I think we are in a spot where it will be more important to our long term goals to develop our young bigs this year versus bringing in a 5th year that helps us win maybe a game or two.
Scouting report on Braun from Eric Bossi of Rivals:
"Braun has good size, is a good athlete and has an expanding skill set and range as a jump shooter. He plays hard and he has won big on the high school level -- two time state champ at Blue Valley Northwest -- while also playing for one of top summer teams in MoKan Elite. He does need to add strength and continue to build on his overall skill level, but his biggest asset right now is is energy and activity. Schools feel like he can come in and play some minutes early because of that energy and that they can develop him into a reliable upperclassman."
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...decision-coming-for-top-35-junior-romeo-weems