Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (October 2019)

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What is the going rate for a top assistant these days? Only thing I could find was 2 years ago and looks like about $375,000 a year would put you close to the top 10. I believe it had Payne at KY listed as high making about $800k.

Definitely think they need to retain OA. His work with the bigs as well as recruiting makes him vital to get back to where we want to be and sustain that. If he leaves for a head coaching gig not much we can do, but would be a big blow to see him leave for another assistant position. Thoughts on what it would take to retain him?

$315,000 on OA
 
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sacraig

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What if our AD (RG jr) just doesn’t offer him a contract renewal?

I generally really enjoy your info, but these sorts of claims make me wonder if you (or your sources) aren't just a bit too close to the situation. Whitman isn't a fool (or at least doesn't publicly seem like one yet), so I am sure he is aware of what drives our recent run of recruiting success. We also know he wants to win. He'd have to be a colossal dunce or else there would need to be some serious heat from outside for him to willingly pull the plug on a guy like Antigua at this stage. He'd be kneecapping his own potential success story in basketball, and he would need a damned good public explanation for that.

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I generally really enjoy your info, but these sorts of claims make me wonder if you (or your sources) aren't just a bit too close to the situation. Whitman isn't a fool (or at least doesn't publicly seem like one yet), so I am sure he is aware of what drives our recent run of recruiting success. We also know he wants to win. He's have to be a colossal dunce or else there would need to be some serious heat for him to willingly pull the plug on a guy like Antigua at this stage. He'd be kneecapping his own potential success story in basketball, and he would need a damned good public explanation for that.

Well said!
 
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If he signs a LOI, he'd have to sit out a year though. In any case, no way OA isn't given a raise and retained short of a HC job.
Jeremiah Tillmon has shown you that this is not the case. An LOI means almost nothing. If a kid wants out, there’s basically nothing a school can do without suffering major public backlash (and recruiting blowback too)
 
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sacraig

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All I’m saying is the basketball staff and JW aren’t exactly on good terms right now. Why wasn’t OAs contract renewed last year when Chins was?

I think that is a perfectly believable claim, but it's premature, in my opinion, to suggest that that this will culminate in not renewing Antigua's contract. That could essentially be Whitman firing himself by kneecapping the basketball program without a good reason. After all, his football hire hasn't exactly panned out (big win notwithstanding) and torpedoing the basketball program would pretty much torpedo his own fortunes here.

I guess what I am saying that I find it completely believable that there is friction between BU and staff and JW. How could there not be after the top-down demotion? It just doesn't seem plausible to me that it is irreparable, especially if the team does well this year and BU basically proves that his approach is working.
 
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I think that is a perfectly believable claim, but it's premature, in my opinion, to suggest that that this will culminate in not renewing Antigua's contract. That could essentially be Whitman firing himself by kneecapping the basketball program without a good reason. After all, his football hire hasn't exactly panned out (big win notwithstanding) and torpedoing the basketball program would pretty much torpedo his own fortunes here.

I guess what I am saying that I find it completely believable that there is friction between BU and staff and JW. How could there not be after the top-down demotion? It just doesn't seem plausible to me that it is irreparable, especially if the team does well this year and BU basically proves that his approach is working.

IDK. i feel like keeping us out of the spotlight for all the wrong reasons is all the people who would fire whitman care about. we've seen year after year nobody at the top of UI (outside the AD-sometimes) actually cares about athletics.
 
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Jeremiah Tillmon has shown you that this is not the case. An LOI means almost nothing. If a kid wants out, there’s basically nothing a school can do without suffering major public backlash (and recruiting blowback too)

HC change allowed JT to do that.
 
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All I’m saying is the basketball staff and JW aren’t exactly on good terms right now. Why wasn’t OAs contract renewed last year when Chins was?
Is this just a hang over from the Walker demotion? Don't sound that a good situation no matter. Little bit of a concern, even in light of the upward arrow generally around the program.
 
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https://www.tampabay.com/former-usf-coach-orlando-antigua-joins-illinois-staff/2319342/

Antigua had a base salary of $375,000 at USF. His contract obligates them to pay the difference between that salary and what he earned at USF through the end of that contract at some point in 2019. It seems like giving him a raise would require paying him more than $375,000.

Prettty good source here that confirms OA at $900,000+/year with incentives at USF.


https://www.bizjournals.com/tampaba...ntigua-contract-worth-900k-per-year-plus.html
 
#618      
All I’m saying is the basketball staff and JW aren’t exactly on good terms right now. Why wasn’t OAs contract renewed last year when Chins was?
Here's hoping for the best on court performance in a decade and two top 50 recruits coming in to sway his mind.
 
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IDK. i feel like keeping us out of the spotlight for all the wrong reasons is all the people who would fire whitman care about. we've seen year after year nobody at the top of UI (outside the AD-sometimes) actually cares about athletics.
Been repeating this for years. It is the only thing holding IL athletics back.
 
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What is the going rate for a top assistant these days? Only thing I could find was 2 years ago and looks like about $375,000 a year would put you close to the top 10. I believe it had Payne at KY listed as high making about $800k.

Definitely think they need to retain OA. His work with the bigs as well as recruiting makes him vital to get back to where we want to be and sustain that. If he leaves for a head coaching gig not much we can do, but would be a big blow to see him leave for another assistant position. Thoughts on what it would take to retain him?
Ryan Pedon at THE Ohio St. makes half a million. Tops in the B10.
 
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FinallY we have our BANGER! We missed the guy on Missouri....but I think we got the better of the two!! Great match-up when we go to St. Louis!
 
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