If they hired lewis and babers gets fired from Syracuse, think hed jump on board as a oc? Trying to picture what type of staff any of these potential g5 coaches could bring in.
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Hmmmmm that sounds familiar.
I would love to see a former Illini player who is a successful Chicago area coach be added as assistant to the staff. It may well help the Illiini's recruiting.
I don't know, whatever the normal formula is for hiring football coaches seems to be unkind for us. Let'a take some chances.
I’m failrly certain a decent amount of G5 guys would come here and some P5 coordinators.
As for the staff....that’s been a big part of the problem too the last 10 seasons....the assistants haven’t been great. Vic being the last decent coordinator we had? You either have to have a staff that teaches the hell out of the game and scheme, or a staff that absolutely kills it in recruiting and it seems like year in and year out we’re stuck in the middle of both of those.
I don't the obsession over a HC who personally recruits. I'd rather have a good leader who knows how to delegate to their staff's strengths. Unless your coach is sub 40 years old(and maybe not even then) they are not going to just magically connect with players. Besides, winning is the most relatable thing amongst football people.
Year Five doesn't look much different than Year One. Absent a magical turn around these last two games, its time for a change. Doesn't help recruiting to have a lame duck coach in Year Six.
Honestly I doubt Dino would come work for his protege. It doesn't help him get back to a HC. Dino is likely going to go to Texas, Alabama, LSU, or another Blue Blood like Michigan to "learn" something new to make him a better HC in the future. Lewis will probably bring some of his Kent St. Staff and maybe hold on to some of Lovie's better recruiters Like Keynodo or Patterson and then some younger GAs that he may know from other places that are looking for a bump up. Honestly don't know how connected he is outside of Dino's tree to figure out what his staff would be. It's interesting but the assistants are the most important part of the next coach that is hired in in the next 2 years.
It wouldn’t hurt, but I am not sure that the Chicago area is a hot bed of high school football talent.
I agree, as I have said, we need a young hungry coach who has a solid track record and pedigree. Needs to be a solid recruiter who can close the deal.
Tried that. Didn't work out so well.
Suburbs have supplied more than enough good OL to Wisconsin and Iowa over the past 20 years. I don't completely disagree, but creating a team identity and creating consistent relationships within state and border states are going to be key for us turning it around.
I agree with your statement about O Linemen. This is the only positional group in Illinois prep football that oozes talent.
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He’s almost 60 aint he? Not saying hes done as a hc but just throwing out an idea, i would agree he’d go to a better oc job over us, was just trying to think of assistant coaches that could benefit coaching wise and recruiting. Was thinking syracuse is same playing field to Illinois and maybe bama or one of those bluebloods would want him but maybe he’d help a protege out, idk probably wishful thinking lol. Like illino0440 mentioned outside vic, last ten years our assistants haven’t been great.
Completely agree that the assistants are going to bed the big difference if we'd are to move fort and honestly are Lovie's biggest downfall. We should have a OC and/or a DC that at least shows up on a list of a potential HC at DII or G5 job. I would love for Dino to come here, I just don't know if he won't or not. I didn't know he was 60 already though.
Yeah 59, i had to double check because I thought he was youger myself. Not that 59’s old but syracuse has fell off bad, figured any p5 oc would be entertaining. Yes the assistant coaches have to have some sort of recognition, keeping hudson and/or patterson wouldn’t hurt my feelings. I like Hayes-Stoker too just to throw more of my $.02 out there. When Austin Clark left for the nfl i was excited!! Excited that someone was offered a job moving up the ladder. Not saying the guys on the staff dont work there tails off but just nice knowing we had a guy someone else wanted. Sorry rant over lol
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Texas fans are delusional. If he’s a free agent we should pounce on it. But we won’t.
I just bumped into pics and videos from the North Carolina game, September ‘16. Lovie’s 2nd game. Memorial Stadium sold out, looked great under the lights, the place is packed and crowd is pumped. So much promise and optimism...we have a Super Bowl NFL coach leading our program. #WeWillWin. Grange Grove is brand new. I remember that like it was yesterday.
And here we are, nearly 5 full seasons in, and not an ounce of that optimism remains. How depressing!!
Oh yeah, and some guy named Trubisky is QB for the Tar Heels.
And here we are, nearly 5 full seasons in, and not an ounce of that optimism remains. How depressing!!
Oh yeah, and some guy named Trubisky is QB for the Tar Heels.
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Pro’s: integrity. Class. Graduations. Leadership. We all genuinely wanted HIM to succeed. Some improvement over Lasagna’s empty cupboard. Turned the tide.
Cons: Same boring story. Nepotism was disappointing. Have we hit our ceiling? Assuming the DC was bold... but hasn’t worked. Biggest problem is now apathy and indifference are settling in. That is exponentially harder to dig out of, and we are at the edge.
It’s time.
Cons: Same boring story. Nepotism was disappointing. Have we hit our ceiling? Assuming the DC was bold... but hasn’t worked. Biggest problem is now apathy and indifference are settling in. That is exponentially harder to dig out of, and we are at the edge.
It’s time.
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Everything you just said is correct. I’m not denying that, but you don’t call a team with moderate recent success a powerhouse. Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, those are powerhouses. You don’t just wake up one day as a powerhouse. The last time they finished top 3 in the Big Ten was 1967.
Powerhouse, flash in the pan, or just because it's Tuesday....Indiana's program is in better shape than Illinois'. No denying that. How they sustain it remains to be seen, but what IU has is a football program with a plan, a coach with a plan and results this year that reflect that plan. Oh, and they've spend a bunch less money than us over these last 5 year too.
he’s gonna be available
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ESPN has coaching carousel article that not surprisingly mentions Lovie. I had mentioned a few days ago that I thought if Lovie went it would be a mutual decision between him an JW, which is what the article mentions also. No surprises on potential candidates — article mentions the two MAC coaches and Bielema.
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