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If I’m JW, I’d being ringing the doorbell of John Holecek to see if the timing is right for him to take over.
Jamey Chadwell would be my #1 choice.
JJE
- Bethalto, IL
He certainly is having a good year. Really affordable from what I saw as well. Question is how many schools are going to be interested in him.
I'll be honest, whenever I see someone suggest "we need someone young," I immediately think of lasagna. No thanks. Although, I guess young is a relative term (wasn't he early 40s?). I'm all for some new life, but I don't know that age has to be a factor.
It is also possible to be young and competent which is the assumption here.
ILLINIShox24
Orange Krush '04 & '05
Beckman was 47 when hired. Not young, just in over his head.
illini80
- Forgottonia
Drops to 1M in Feb or March. Idk if the late season makes waiting until then more of an option? It’s not like Lovie is going to sign a lot of guys between now and then anyway.
Ultimately the 1M difference isn’t probably the deal breaker either way.JJE
- Bethalto, IL
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't foresee JW hiring a clown like Beckman. Based on what I've seen from Josh I think he values the schools image almost as much as winning and some on here might even say he values it more than winning.
If I was AD (which trust me guys I'm totally not) I would be going straight to Billy Napier.
South Carolina pulled the trigger and now they have Beamer from the OU staff. Solid recruiter with a very good resume and son of Frank Beamer who led VaTech to success. I believe that JW is reaching out but doing it through back channels. He is smart enough to see that his guy has failed here. I expect an announcement by no later than Christmas if he is going to let Lovie go or have him step down.
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
South Carolina took a bigger risk than I would have guessed hiring an assistant. I figured Napier would be SEC bound if hes to leave. With as many p5 schools open or rumored to be open has me a little worried we’ll be running into a sumlin senerio where were just being used as leverage. Hopefully jw has a short list and can get his guy. I was excited about the lovie hire but its just not working out. Hard to defend it and wont gain anything keeping him around. He spent big money on lovie so i do t see that as an issue. Wonder if anyone has any similar feelings that BU had about Illinois basketball. Im not sayin Illinois football is comparable to Illinois basketball but theres got to be someone who wants the job, no?
Me too, I agree with you about rather having Coach Smith.
However, why was Hermann so successful at Houston?
The problem is you don’t want to be the last school looking for a new HC.Drops to 1M in Feb or March. Idk if the late season makes waiting until then more of an option? It’s not like Lovie is going to sign a lot of guys between now and then anyway.
illini80
- Forgottonia
100% agree. IDK if you can have a coach waiting in the wings and be legal. Doesn’t matter I suppose. I doubt that would be how JW would handle it. We either quickly decide to move on or we don’t.
They are this year, ranked #12 nationally, and with bright prospects for the future. They are 6-1 in the Big Ten, beating Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penn State and losing to OSU by only one score. If that was the Illini, we would all be ecstatic. The current Indiana coach took over a program in even worse shape than ours, and built them into a winner, with positive growth each year. Most of his recruits are three stars, like ours, but the difference is he has maximized the performance of that talent.
I would actually really like his brother Todd. Was a candidate for the Bucs job after Lovie and had way more college experience plus more links to IL while keeping our inroads in FL and GA
I don’t necessarily know how to explain the Herman question. I will say: I don’t like hiring coaches after only a year or two of success as a head coach. Too difficult to tell whether it was a flash in the pan or if they really built that. Ones that have gone to a couple programs, helped build them up after years of struggling—give me that, whether it’s in the MAC or wherever.
To out it in perspective Lovie is making $5 mil each year for the next 2 years. If we moved on we'd be paying him $2 this year and be done. We are probably looking at MAC HC like Lewis or Leopold or a P5 Coordinator like Lea or Monken all of which we are looking at ~2mil for them leaving us quite a bit of cash (~2mil) to put together a staff compared to just paying Lovie 5mil and another 1-2 mil for his staff. Plus we will get a revenue boost of fans trying to give the team a chance again and with having the last year of Lovie's upperclass dominated teams could allow a new coach to actually hit the ground running and parlay a good year into good recruits followed by a down year before we are back into upward mobility in the B1G.
Throughout college football circles this is viewed as a bottom of the barrel job. Getting a sitting P5 head coach to leave their current job to come here would be next to impossible. Hell you could throw 20 mil a year at Urban Meyer and he’d say no.
How about this: we fire Lovie, promote Rod Smith to HC but only give him a 2-year deal then exclaim that "it's not a death blow to the program".
How long before we can bring Scheelhouse in to be our HC
No i don’t disagree, i wasnt tryin to say we’d flip another p5 guy to come here but simply praying theres a guy who wants to be here. Of all the g5 coaches there are many I like but ask myself would they come here? I feel any new hc would be better than where we’re headed now.
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