If they hired lewis and babers gets fired from Syracuse, think hed jump on board as a oc? Trying to picture what type of staff any of these potential g5 coaches could bring in.
Hmmmmm that sounds familiar.Throughout college football circles this is viewed as a bottom of the barrel job. Getting a sitting P5 head coach to leave their current job to come here would be next to impossible. Hell you could throw 20 mil a year at Urban Meyer and he’d say no.
I would love to see a former Illini player who is a successful Chicago area coach be added as assistant to the staff. It may well help the Illiini's recruiting.John Holocek who has never coached at the college level?
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I would love to see a former Illini player who is a successful Chicago area coach be added as assistant to the staff. It may well help the Illiini's recruiting.
I’m failrly certain a decent amount of G5 guys would come here and some P5 coordinators.No i don’t disagree, i wasnt tryin to say we’d flip another p5 guy to come here but simply praying theres a guy who wants to be here. Of all the g5 coaches there are many I like but ask myself would they come here? I feel any new hc would be better than where we’re headed now.
As for the staff....that’s been a big part of the problem too the last 10 seasons....the assistants haven’t been great. Vic being the last decent coordinator we had? You either have to have a staff that teaches the hell out of the game and scheme, or a staff that absolutely kills it in recruiting and it seems like year in and year out we’re stuck in the middle of both of those.If they hired lewis and babers gets fired from Syracuse, think hed jump on board as a oc? Trying to picture what type of staff any of these potential g5 coaches could bring in.
Honestly I doubt Dino would come work for his protege. It doesn't help him get back to a HC. Dino is likely going to go to Texas, Alabama, LSU, or another Blue Blood like Michigan to "learn" something new to make him a better HC in the future. Lewis will probably bring some of his Kent St. Staff and maybe hold on to some of Lovie's better recruiters Like Keynodo or Patterson and then some younger GAs that he may know from other places that are looking for a bump up. Honestly don't know how connected he is outside of Dino's tree to figure out what his staff would be. It's interesting but the assistants are the most important part of the next coach that is hired in in the next 2 years.If they hired lewis and babers gets fired from Syracuse, think hed jump on board as a oc? Trying to picture what type of staff any of these potential g5 coaches could bring in.
It wouldn’t hurt, but I am not sure that the Chicago area is a hot bed of high school football talent.I would love to see a former Illini player who is a successful Chicago area coach be added as assistant to the staff. It may well help the Illiini's recruiting.
I agree, as I have said, we need a young hungry coach who has a solid track record and pedigree. Needs to be a solid recruiter who can close the deal.I don't the obsession over a HC who personally recruits. I'd rather have a good leader who knows how to delegate to their staff's strengths. Unless your coach is sub 40 years old(and maybe not even then) they are not going to just magically connect with players. Besides, winning is the most relatable thing amongst football people.
Tried that. Didn't work out so well.I don't know, whatever the normal formula is for hiring football coaches seems to be unkind for us. Let'a take some chances.
Suburbs have supplied more than enough good OL to Wisconsin and Iowa over the past 20 years. I don't completely disagree, but creating a team identity and creating consistent relationships within state and border states are going to be key for us turning it around.It wouldn’t hurt, but I am not sure that the Chicago area is a hot bed of high school football talent.
I agree with your statement about O Linemen. This is the only positional group in Illinois prep football that oozes talent.Suburbs have supplied more than enough good OL to Wisconsin and Iowa over the past 20 years. I don't completely disagree, but creating a team identity and creating consistent relationships within state and border states are going to be key for us turning it around.
He’s almost 60 aint he? Not saying hes done as a hc but just throwing out an idea, i would agree he’d go to a better oc job over us, was just trying to think of assistant coaches that could benefit coaching wise and recruiting. Was thinking syracuse is same playing field to Illinois and maybe bama or one of those bluebloods would want him but maybe he’d help a protege out, idk probably wishful thinking lol. Like illino0440 mentioned outside vic, last ten years our assistants haven’t been great.Honestly I doubt Dino would come work for his protege. It doesn't help him get back to a HC. Dino is likely going to go to Texas, Alabama, LSU, or another Blue Blood like Michigan to "learn" something new to make him a better HC in the future. Lewis will probably bring some of his Kent St. Staff and maybe hold on to some of Lovie's better recruiters Like Keynodo or Patterson and then some younger GAs that he may know from other places that are looking for a bump up. Honestly don't know how connected he is outside of Dino's tree to figure out what his staff would be. It's interesting but the assistants are the most important part of the next coach that is hired in in the next 2 years.
Completely agree that the assistants are going to bed the big difference if we'd are to move fort and honestly are Lovie's biggest downfall. We should have a OC and/or a DC that at least shows up on a list of a potential HC at DII or G5 job. I would love for Dino to come here, I just don't know if he won't or not. I didn't know he was 60 already though.He’s almost 60 aint he? Not saying hes done as a hc but just throwing out an idea, i would agree he’d go to a better oc job over us, was just trying to think of assistant coaches that could benefit coaching wise and recruiting. Was thinking syracuse is same playing field to Illinois and maybe bama or one of those bluebloods would want him but maybe he’d help a protege out, idk probably wishful thinking lol. Like illino0440 mentioned outside vic, last ten years our assistants haven’t been great.
Yeah 59, i had to double check because I thought he was youger myself. Not that 59’s old but syracuse has fell off bad, figured any p5 oc would be entertaining. Yes the assistant coaches have to have some sort of recognition, keeping hudson and/or patterson wouldn’t hurt my feelings. I like Hayes-Stoker too just to throw more of my $.02 out there. When Austin Clark left for the nfl i was excited!! Excited that someone was offered a job moving up the ladder. Not saying the guys on the staff dont work there tails off but just nice knowing we had a guy someone else wanted. Sorry rant over lolCompletely agree that the assistants are going to bed the big difference if we'd are to move fort and honestly are Lovie's biggest downfall. We should have a OC and/or a DC that at least shows up on a list of a potential HC at DII or G5 job. I would love for Dino to come here, I just don't know if he won't or not. I didn't know he was 60 already though.
Texas fans are delusional. If he’s a free agent we should pounce on it. But we won’t.Sounds like Tom Hermann may be available at the end of the session.
Everything you just said is correct. I’m not denying that, but you don’t call a team with moderate recent success a powerhouse. Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, those are powerhouses. You don’t just wake up one day as a powerhouse. The last time they finished top 3 in the Big Ten was 1967.They are this year, ranked #12 nationally, and with bright prospects for the future. They are 6-1 in the Big Ten, beating Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penn State and losing to OSU by only one score. If that was the Illini, we would all be ecstatic. The current Indiana coach took over a program in even worse shape than ours, and built them into a winner, with positive growth each year. Most of his recruits are three stars, like ours, but the difference is he has maximized the performance of that talent.
Texas fans are delusional. If he’s a free agent we should pounce on it. But we won’t.
"Thomas E. Allen is an American college football coach serving as the head coach of the Indiana Hoosiers football team. Allen previously served as the defensive coordinator at Indiana and South Florida. He spent time as an assistant at Ole Miss, Arkansas State, and Drake, among other programs. Wikipedia"How does Indiana, with a much smaller in state recruiting base and competition for that talent coming from Notre Dame and Purdue, rise to become a power house Big Ten football team second only to OSU? Meanwhile, the Illini staff could screw up a one cart funeral in Broken Stump, Nevada. Time to clean house. Indiana thought outside the box and hired their winningest high school coach to run the program, and his results speak for themselves. Not saying we need to copy this model, but clearly what we have been doing for the past several decades with coaching staff hires is the definition of frustration.