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I apologize if I'm asking anyone to be repetitive but we've been on vacation and work obligations have me way behind on our attention to sports of any sort. That said, what exactly happened to AC. Did this injury happen in a game or practice? Obviously he's suffering from a concussion. I've been able to find very little in the way of how this happened and when.
 
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I apologize if I'm asking anyone to be repetitive but we've been on vacation and work obligations have me way behind on our attention to sports of any sort. That said, what exactly happened to AC. Did this injury happen in a game or practice? Obviously he's suffering from a concussion. I've been able to find very little in the way of how this happened and when.
Per 247... "He last played against Kansas State in the Hall of Fame Classic, where he was visibly in pain. Curbelo played a few shortened stints in the second half of that game, but he was seen wincing, resting his head on Underwood’s chest and getting treatment on his neck on the bench"

No one knows what happened or what the cause is. Many speculate it's related to the concussion. Maybe he injured himself another way during a game? All we know is... per Underwood, "confident he's going to be on the court again"
 
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Tacomallini

Washington State
Per 247... "He last played against Kansas State in the Hall of Fame Classic, where he was visibly in pain. Curbelo played a few shortened stints in the second half of that game, but he was seen wincing, resting his head on Underwood’s chest and getting treatment on his neck on the bench"

No one knows what happened or what the cause is. Many speculate it's related to the concussion. Maybe he injured himself another way during a game? All we know is... per Underwood, "confident he's going to be on the court again"
all of the above. Loren Tate mentioned vertigo in a radio interview, apparently. Ted Lasso suspects a case of the yips, but those words cannot be spoken.
 
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all of the above. Loren Tate mentioned vertigo in a radio interview, apparently. Ted Lasso suspects a case of the yips, but those words cannot be spoken.
The yips ended Rick Ankiel's career as a pitcher, but he was able to come back as a pretty good outfielder. Maybe Curbelo can come back as a 5?

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This is not good
When Brad was asked earlier this week if there was a time line for AC's return his response was "NO". Not "We are seeing improvement", not "We are hopeful it will be soon"...just a flat out "NO". So I take this response from BU as a positive.
 
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Post concussion symptoms can obviously last a long time and should not be taken lightly, hopefully he returns to full health
We are definitely a different team with a healthy Curbelo, he will make an immediate impact whenever he’s ready to play- the player we saw play this year was not a healthy Curbelo
 
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Ryllini

Lombard
I can’t wait to see AC fully healthy with some Rex Specs on and that head of lettuce flowing as he dishing some dimes.
 
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blackdog

Champaign
Fair point but this didn't seem to be an issue last year, when Curbelo also was a bad shooter. Our adjusted offense per Kenpom is a little worse at 11th this year, 8th last year. Our adjusted defense is 38th this year and was 7th last year. I know that no Ayo and the switch from Miller to Plummer probably has a lot to do with that, but is it possible AC did more on defense than he gets credit for?

BU mentioned in his presser that at this time last year they were in the 50s defensively before finishing 7th so it actually seems like they are ahead so far this year if they show the same level of improvement.
 
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Point take, but there is no way I will concede that we are a better team without AC than with AC
Only way this team is not better without AC is:
1. The entire team goes cold as in the Cincy game.
2. He can keep his A/T ratio under 3.

He has to facilitate and make scoring opportunities. When he is in, a shooter sits....most of the time. Therefore, he must move, move the ball quickly to where it needs to go, and not turn it over. This makes the team function efficiently. Some might point to what he adds in ball-handling security....but that has NEVER been a plus. This team can beat a press easily...as any team can....if they simply practice and gain confidence.

Sure, I want AC to play and be a strength. But this team is getting where they need to be without him. He will add...if he does not subtract... and in a nutshell, that means no blundering turnovers and efficient shooting. That has not been seen in his brief time, but he can do it as we have seen on occasion in the past. As Grandison stated after the last game, doing the easy things well without blunders is generally the right thing to do....ESPN highlights be damned. As a team without Curbelo, they are doing just that and I passionately love to see Kofi passing out of double teams quickly to perimeter shooters which is this team's strength....but heretofore unseen (except by Illini opponents when raining threes to a win). This team demands opponents double Kofi...so they will as we have seen. When he gets the ball in the paint and is doubled, there is only one way to beat that....get it quickly to the unguarded shooter and let him fire away. Unfortunately, with AC in the game, there is one less shooter, so he will have to make up for that...and I hope he can and will. If so, those 5-10 min. scoring droughts will disappear and this team gets more and more difficult to beat...by anyone.
 
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DICKnaggie

Champaign
Only way this team is not better without AC is:
1. The entire team goes cold as in the Cincy game.
2. He can keep his A/T ratio under 3.

He has to facilitate and make scoring opportunities. When he is in, a shooter sits....most of the time. Therefore, he must move, move the ball quickly to where it needs to go, and not turn it over. This makes the team function efficiently. Some might point to what he adds in ball-handling security....but that has NEVER been a plus. This team can beat a press easily...as any team can....if they simply practice and gain confidence.
We are surely developing a dangerous offensive capability and identity that works in-game and is a huge sell to prospective recruits. I think it is fair to ask how AC with his limited shooting fits in as he comes back. I mostly hope he gets healthy and everyone gets a chance to figure out how such a gifted ball handler and passer could fit into or morph the goodness that is developing right now. How will the staff adjust to capitalize on his strengths? He is such a special talent. I just worry about him coming back in the middle of the season as a sophmore and trying to do the work necessary to make up the growth he should of had the opprotunity to make in the first part of the season, just as we are starting gel and create that identity. What a tough spot for AC to be in. Truly feel for the young man and wish him the absolute best.
 
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Only way this team is not better without AC is:
1. The entire team goes cold as in the Cincy game.
2. He can keep his A/T ratio under 3.

He has to facilitate and make scoring opportunities. When he is in, a shooter sits....most of the time. Therefore, he must move, move the ball quickly to where it needs to go, and not turn it over. This makes the team function efficiently. Some might point to what he adds in ball-handling security....but that has NEVER been a plus. This team can beat a press easily...as any team can....if they simply practice and gain confidence.

Sure, I want AC to play and be a strength. But this team is getting where they need to be without him. He will add...if he does not subtract... and in a nutshell, that means no blundering turnovers and efficient shooting. That has not been seen in his brief time, but he can do it as we have seen on occasion in the past. As Grandison stated after the last game, doing the easy things well without blunders is generally the right thing to do....ESPN highlights be damned. As a team without Curbelo, they are doing just that and I passionately love to see Kofi passing out of double teams quickly to perimeter shooters which is this team's strength....but heretofore unseen (except by Illini opponents when raining threes to a win). This team demands opponents double Kofi...so they will as we have seen. When he gets the ball in the paint and is doubled, there is only one way to beat that....get it quickly to the unguarded shooter and let him fire away. Unfortunately, with AC in the game, there is one less shooter, so he will have to make up for that...and I hope he can and will. If so, those 5-10 min. scoring droughts will disappear and this team gets more and more difficult to beat...by anyone.
So what happens when Trent needs rest or gets in foul problems? Think it is absolutely wrong to think the team is better without Belo. Suggest you go back and watch a replay of the Michigan game. Who was it who was put in the games when they started out slow. Memories seem pretty short when a player has a bad game or streak.
 
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So what happens when Trent needs rest or gets in foul problems? Think it is absolutely wrong to think the team is better without Belo. Suggest you go back and watch a replay of the Michigan game. Who was it who was put in the games when they started out slow. Memories seem pretty short when a player has a bad game or streak.
No kidding. We are dangerously thin at guard right now, particularly guards who can handle the ball. I don't think Belo comes in and starts right away (assuming hopefully that he comes back soon). But he can absolute help us as another capable ballhandler for 20 min/game. And he's significantly better at getting Kofi the ball in optimal scoring position than anyone else on the roster.
 
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frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
So what happens when Trent needs rest or gets in foul problems? Think it is absolutely wrong to think the team is better without Belo. Suggest you go back and watch a replay of the Michigan game. Who was it who was put in the games when they started out slow. Memories seem pretty short when a player has a bad game or streak.
Thank you. I'm floored that people are suggesting the addition of Curbelo would be a determent to this team. Part of what sucks about his absence is that it gives everyone too big a time to stew over Marquette and Cincinnati games, both which we have ample evidence he was playing hurt. He is an elite level PG. It wasn't an accident the entire college hoops world (including us) was gushing over him when the season started.
 
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The weird part for me is that he came back after the initial injury and played a few games and then suddenly his status and health went dark for what will be almost two months.
 
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I apologize if I'm asking anyone to be repetitive but we've been on vacation and work obligations have me way behind on our attention to sports of any sort. That said, what exactly happened to AC. Did this injury happen in a game or practice? Obviously he's suffering from a concussion. I've been able to find very little in the way of how this happened and when.
It was like in the first 30 seconds of the Indiana (PA)game
 
#46      
Thank you. I'm floored that people are suggesting the addition of Curbelo would be a determent to this team. Part of what sucks about his absence is that it gives everyone too big a time to stew over Marquette and Cincinnati games, both which we have ample evidence he was playing hurt. He is an elite level PG. It wasn't an accident the entire college hoops world (including us) was gushing over him when the season started.
It all depends on the kind of performance AC is able to display upon his return. I will stake my life on the likelihood that BU will not play him 25+ min. but more like 15 if he shows any consistency with more turnovers than assists along with poor shooting. Do I expect that? Hell no. I hope he brings energy and excellence....should he see the floor again.

Nevertheless, this team THAT IS PLAYING NOW is improving steadily towards a point of challenging for the B1G title and a run at the FF.
 
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Noblesville Illini

Nappanee, IN
The weird part for me is that he came back after the initial injury and played a few games and then suddenly his status and health went dark for what will be almost two months.
This whole thing baffled me because I had a severe concussion as a kid and didn't experience any long term effects. So, I read up on it and some are immediate, some occur weeks later and some can take months to surface. The number of concussions is usually the driver of these things. While they can occur with one severe hit, they are usually worse with multiples. Hope this is Belo's first and last.
 
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I almost asked this a couple of weeks ago but decided not to then. It seems to fit now in this thread. After watching the recording of the Kansas State game it was obvious that AC had two (or possibly three) large red whelps on the back of his neck. Do others remember seeing this and does anyone know what that might mean in relationship to the injury he is dealing with?
 
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