Illinois 76, Maryland 64 Postgame

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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
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Hey Cairo , how's the A-hole prick in laws doing ?.....You got to gloat and rub it in yet ?......Happy for you bro....................
 
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Everybody's played 3 B1G games now, let's see what the EM standings look like:

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Still early, and yes, Illinois' opponents have all been effectively bottom half EM teams, but that's partly because they've played Illinois.

At this point, the teams have effectively separated into 6 tiers:
T1 - Illinois, still in the stratosphere
T2 - Michigan State, clearly separated from everyone else
T3 - Michigan, Indiana, Ohio State - Solid tournament teams net positive in the league early on.
T4 - Wisconsin, Purdue, Northwestern, Iowa - Neutral thus far, early struggles (or in Wisconsin's case, one early blowout loss)
T5 - PSU, Minnesota, Maryland, Rutgers - Bottom half of the league, outside looking in on a tournament bid if they can't improve, mostly just played Illinois so far.
T6 - Nebraska - Hey, they did play one close game and look to improve their metrics next week against...*checks notes*...Illinois and Purdue. Oh well.
 
#232      
I don’t know if Kofi will make it in NBA, but with the improvements he’s shown this year I wouldn’t bet against him. His improvement in FT shooting and passing back out of the post has had a huge impact on the team. He’s not perfect at either, but what strides he’s made. His footwork has also greatly improved this year. He still puts up a wonky weak shot here and there, but most of the time he has a plan and purpose with the ball. With the improvements to his game, I don’t think Kofi is done growing his game.
 
#233      

GallopingGhost

Denver, CO
Everybody's played 3 B1G games now, let's see what the EM standings look like:

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Still early, and yes, Illinois' opponents have all been effectively bottom half EM teams, but that's partly because they've played Illinois.

At this point, the teams have effectively separated into 6 tiers:
T1 - Illinois, still in the stratosphere
T2 - Michigan State, clearly separated from everyone else
T3 - Michigan, Indiana, Ohio State - Solid tournament teams net positive in the league early on.
T4 - Wisconsin, Purdue, Northwestern, Iowa - Neutral thus far, early struggles (or in Wisconsin's case, one early blowout loss)
T5 - PSU, Minnesota, Maryland, Rutgers - Bottom half of the league, outside looking in on a tournament bid if they can't improve, mostly just played Illinois so far.
T6 - Nebraska - Hey, they did play one close game and look to improve their metrics next week against...*checks notes*...Illinois and Purdue. Oh well.
Question: is it just chance that the Off and Def league average are the same 1.027? Or is it standardized somehow to center around that?
 
#234      
Question: is it just chance that the Off and Def league average are the same 1.027? Or is it standardized somehow to center around that?
It'll be the same if all the games included are conference where the teams play each other bc the underlying games are all the same for both columns. Add one non-conf game and it'd start to drift.
 
#235      

sacraig

The desert
It'll be the same if all the games included are conference where the teams play each other bc the underlying games are all the same for both columns. Add one non-conf game and it'd start to drift.
To expand on this, it does not necessarily have to add up to a specific number, though (here, 1.027). They only have to match.
 
#237      
This game scared me more than the Minnesota game. Long layoff followed by a 48 hour turnaround. Excitement and adrenaline gets you through the first game but you feel it more the second.

Like when you work out after a while and you feel great and push yourself too far and feel every bit of it two days later. Just happy we got a win and get some practice time.
 
#239      

blackdog

Champaign
I don’t know if Kofi will make it in NBA, but with the improvements he’s shown this year I wouldn’t bet against him. His improvement in FT shooting and passing back out of the post has had a huge impact on the team. He’s not perfect at either, but what strides he’s made. His footwork has also greatly improved this year. He still puts up a wonky weak shot here and there, but most of the time he has a plan and purpose with the ball. With the improvements to his game, I don’t think Kofi is done growing his game.

I posted this in the season thread but its so easy to forget he's been playing ball for less than 10 years! With his intelligence and work ethic as MJ would say his ceiling is the roof.
 
#240      
Question: is it just chance that the Off and Def league average are the same 1.027? Or is it standardized somehow to center around that?
Others have mentioned, but it's effectively a zero-sum game including only conference games. For every point a team scores in a possession, the opposing team allows a point in a possession. It's effectively a check for me to make sure I included everything on both ends (it should always sum to zero), but the number itself is dependent on how effective the league average offense is.

To this point, league average is slightly up over last year (1.027 vs 1.022 to end last year), but offense tailed off a lot late in the season last year, so it's overall very similar.
 
#246      

Tacomallini

Washington State
I know. I said I’m picking at nits. But, with how good this team is, I don’t wanna lose a tourney game because of this strategy. That’s all.
You actually said "picking at nuts" earlier, and it confused the heck out of me, lol. Thanks for the clarification and no worries on the nits, it's been an interesting dialogue.
 
#249      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — Kofi Cockburn posted his seventh straight double-double, Trent Frazier scored 16 points and Illinois rallied after squandering an early lead to beat Maryland 76-64 on Thursday night.
Cockburn scored 23 points and tied a career-high with 18 rebounds after early foul trouble. He made 9-of-12 shots with many coming thunderous dunks from the powerful 7-footer listed at 285 pounds.

After Eric Ayala’s 3-pointer gave Maryland a 47-42 lead with 14:31 left, Illinois went on a 12-0 run and led the rest of the way.

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#250      
This is so important to our program. We are “cool” to an NBA superstar (much less a Chicago Bull superstar). This bodes very well for future recruits.

I am all for pulling Kofi out with two fouls in the first half of any regular season game. But!!! I’m the NCAA tournament I hope that is not the strategy. Kofi is very smart I believe he can play 3-5 minute stretches without fouling. He has proved that his entire Illinois career.

This game show where Curbello would have really helped. The “4 out” offense only works if you have Kofi to draw the double and triple team that leaves open shooters. Curbello can do much the same for the shooters with the drive and dish or PNR (if he plays under control). I also agree with many others, I would have left Payne in for most of the 1st half even if he got 4 fouls. You knew you were going to play Kofi 17 plus minutes in the second half if you were going to sacrifice the 1st half anyways?