3/17 Games

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jumpingjack
I would not have wanted to run into either one of these teams tonight - USF played great. Congrats to Murray State
 
#709      
WeWillWhen
skyIdub said:
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champaignchris
In terms of all-time tourney upsets in the expanded format era (since 1985), I’d put St Francis over Kentucky 6th.

1. Obviously MD-BC over Virginia in 18 is tops. Not just that it was a 16 over a 1, but that it wasn’t really even close.

2. Richmond over Syracuse in 91. First time a 2 over a 15. A really good SU team.

3. Santa Clara over Arizona in 93. No one knew who Steve Nash was yet. They found out. AZ had 7 future NBA players on it.

4. Norfolk St over Missouri in 12. If you look at the disparity in metrics this actually might be the biggest upset of all time. Norfolk was 318th out of 344 teams in points allowed.

5. Lehigh over Duke also in 12. This was shocking based on reputation. But if you look at the metrics, Duke was significantly over-seeded and Lehigh was significantly under-seeded. If you took the school names off the jerseys, this was closer to a 12-5 upset in talent. Still an upset, but not uncommon.
 
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Ignatius Shang
21ChampaignSt said:
Oh yeah, they're definitely obnoxious.

@Ignatius Shang I can't say why home fans in the US are tolerant to visitors. I do think it's a good thing though. I've had good and bad experiences as a visiting fan and right or wrong, I project those experiences onto the entire fanbase/school/state. And for that reason, I cringe when I see our fans being inhospitable to visitors. One of my very few bad experiences at a UI home game was during the Groce era after we beat Purdue. I was sitting by a young Purdue fan, maybe 7 or 8 years old. First game he ever saw in person. He was in awe thr entire game. When the final buzzer sounded, a couple adult Illinois fans turned to him and started mocking him causing him to cry. I can only hope that he and his parents understand that those were just a couple of bad apples (oranges?) and as a fanbase, we're better than that.
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I share your feeling on the story, and adult fans mocking a child is undignified.
Based on my experience at home games (well, only 20 or so games from 19-20 season), I think Purdue fans are pretty decent, just cheering for their own teams and sometimes complimenting the refs. But in the game against Arizona last fall, some Wildcat fans were quite unlikable - making noise when Kofi is shooting free throws. This was the moment made me surprised when nobody tried to stop them.
But all in all, I like the US sports culture that tolerates visitors much better than the European soccer culture that was very inhospitable to the visitors.
 
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Ignatius Shang
Bebes_J said:
I think there are occasional flare ups here. I hear Raider fans can get physical. But o think mostly it’s a cultural thing with European soccer fans. It starts early in life and they take their tribal allegiance seriously. I remember as a school kid in England one year while my dad was on sabbatical, there was this group of kids who would roam the playground chanting “Bristol or Rover?” and if they asked you you had to say who your team was and I was always worried what I was supposed to say, thinking I better pick the right team or I’m gonna get my !!! kicked right here on the playground. Scary.
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Although I didn't have this personal experience, this is exactly my impression on English soccer rivalry culture. I have been an Arsenal fan for over a decade and have been following Premier League pretty closely.
Btw, does Rover refer to Bristol Rovers? There are many English teams with that name.
 
#715      
Ignatius Shang
the juiceman cometh said:
It is kinda strange. US sports fandom is a bit of an anomaly honestly. In the majority of other countries, being a visiting fan is a tense and even at times dangerous proposition.

I am Turkish-American myself, and have been a visiting fan for a couple Turkish soccer matches. All the fans of my team were literally cordoned off by police pre-game, and then got a kind of police escort out after game. Multiple other fans (not in my group!) had knives and the like confiscated. And it wasn't even anything close to a rivalry game. You basically can't take kids to games at all in that kind of atmosphere, which is pretty sad.

I am very glad that sports fandom isn't like that here and have no idea why other countries haven't been able to emulate it.
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As @Bebes_J mentioned earlier, I think it is a cultural thing that related to a sense of tribal allegiance. I have heard the tense atmosphere in the games between Istanbul clubs (especially between Galatasaray,and Fenerbahce), and I can imagine it is similar for other clubs in Turkey. I also heard that in some Serbian and Argentinian games, it was almost a war.
 
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BackThatPassUp
champaignchris said:
In terms of all-time tourney upsets in the expanded format era (since 1985), I’d put St Francis over Kentucky 6th.

1. Obviously MD-BC over Virginia in 18 is tops. Not just that it was a 16 over a 1, but that it wasn’t really even close.

2. Richmond over Syracuse in 91. First time a 2 over a 15. A really good SU team.

3. Santa Clara over Arizona in 93. No one knew who Steve Nash was yet. They found out. AZ had 7 future NBA players on it.

4. Norfolk St over Missouri in 12. If you look at the disparity in metrics this actually might be the biggest upset of all time. Norfolk was 318th out of 344 teams in points allowed.

5. Lehigh over Duke also in 12. This was shocking based on reputation. But if you look at the metrics, Duke was significantly over-seeded and Lehigh was significantly under-seeded. If you took the school names off the jerseys, this was closer to a 12-5 upset in talent. Still an upset, but not uncommon.
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You're forgetting the Hampton over Iowa state team led by Jamaal tinsley in 2001 when it was a 15/2 upset.
 
#717      
STL Illini
Had to travel international all day Thursday and just catching up on tournament action from day one. Probably has been said countless times in the 29 pages I don’t have the energy to catch up on.
But holy moly … good thing Cal snatched up our two assistants to solidify coaching and recruiting.
We all know Kentucky is known for one and done players.
I guess that goes for tournament performances as well…one and done baby!!!
 
#718      
Th3Univ3rs3
lexwaldez said:
This is why Coach Underwood took a page out of Izzo's book. It's not like we didn't care about the B1G tourney... we did. But getting the two day bye, one and done, two days of extra rest, and some billboard material. It's not the worst way to go into the tourney. Brad said he's locked in on the dance this year. Let's see if the team delivers. I am cautiously optimistic. Which is new. And somewhat alarming now that I think about it.
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let’s hope you’re right. Brad can be as locked in as he wants, he’s not throwing up shots or playing defense. If we win, we’ll say the extra days helped, if we don’t, we’ll say the opposite.
 
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SuperintendentChalmers
FloridaMan said:
Agree. Would be best for the B10 conference to change the BTT timing. Maybe end it on Saturday? I know, will never happen, too much TV money, etc. Conference couldn't care less if teams are gassed going into the NCAAT. As long as they get 8-9 teams in the league's work is done.
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I think that's very unlikely. The last game before the brackets are announced is the best time slot. Like nearly every other year, our final is highest rated.

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Big Ten an exception as conference title games rebound

Outside of the Big Ten, ratings for the major college basketball conference title games rebounded significantly during championship week.
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NJJ871
Ignatius Shang said:
I have a question for a long time: I have been in several home games in Champaign and the fans of the visiting teams are making noise in the seats next to us, even when our players are shooting free throws. I have also been to many soccer games (in China and in Europe) and such thing never happens - they are strictly limited to certain stands, and are usually separated by security guards, otherwise the fans of the visiting teams will be surrounded and perhaps beaten by the overwhelmingly majority of the fans of the home team when they cheer, let alone booing the home players.
So my question is: why US fans are so tolerant to the fans of the visiting teams?
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Just try thinking about something else, like baseball. 😜
 
#724      
DMWSuperFan
BackThatPassUp said:
You're forgetting the Hampton over Iowa state team led by Jamaal tinsley in 2001 when it was a 15/2 upset.
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You’re going to bring up Hampton over Iowa state but not oral Roberts over OSU, FGC over Georgetown, or mtsu over msu?

Edit: I misread and thought you said it was a 12/5 upset.
 
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Birdus
The best thing about this whole day was when the camera panned to the Kentucky bench and Chin looked like he was totally shocked and frustrated. Barkley said that Kentucky played bad defense on the screens and I tend to agree with him somewhat. But he also took away the credit from the kid who was knocking those shots down. I think St. Francis is going to win another game in this tourney and maybe 2 if things pan out for them. I really like watching their action out there. They get after it.
 
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