Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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sacraig

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MannyBianco said:
I don’t think athletics have much impact on the academic reputation of a university, nor vice versa. People know the difference between Harvard and Alabama, for example.
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Not directly, but indirectly. Successful athletics does a few good things. It:
  1. increases the overall visibility of the school, which leads to more student interest and can bolster academic programs;
  2. increases alumni engagement, which can lead to increased giving to both athletic and academic programs; and
  3. increases TV contract money, which can reduce the financial impact of athletic programs on university finances.

I may be missing something but the above are generally true and may well justify letting a handful of people in to play sports who might not otherwise have had the academic chops.
 
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Noblesville Illini

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MannyBianco said:
I don’t think athletics have much impact on the academic reputation of a university, nor vice versa. People know the difference between Harvard and Alabama, for example.
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Sacraig's points are spot on. Bash beat me to it as well. Just posted this a minute later.

While athletics doesn't have impact on academic reputation, it most certainly drives school popularity. Anyone want to bet St.Peters sees an uptick in applications and enrollment this year? Yep, that school will see some better revenue there as well as NCAA certified swag revenue!
 
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Joel Goodson

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Given a choice, I've always favored a PG who doesn't hang on to the ball (e.g., Deron & Dee). That makes the pain of losing a flippin' virtuoso like Papi more palatable. Yeah, it helps immeasurably that we're replacing him with a 5 star (ostensibly). All the best to AC, a reset will probably serve him well. Always a big fan.
 
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ginabackes00

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The one major positive of Belo is seeing what a PG brings when they can break down the defense. The TOs were an issue. What was missing from this year's team was size at the guard positions and the inability to be a triple threat and having the length defensively. It looks like we're trying to remedy this.
 
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derrick6

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MannyBianco said:
I don’t think athletics have much impact on the academic reputation of a university, nor vice versa. People know the difference between Harvard and Alabama, for example.
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Ohio State really tries to associate their athletic success to academic prowess.

Anyone serious about their academic pursuit will do their own research and see it doesn’t correlate. Others that don’t will be surprised when they boast about the academics being better than a top school only to have their reality smashed.
 
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MannyBianco said:
I don’t think athletics have much impact on the academic reputation of a university, nor vice versa. People know the difference between Harvard and Alabama, for example.
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Nobody suggested fielding top notch athletic teams directly affects academic reputation. Nor does having a world class fine arts program. Both enhance the overall prestige of a school.
 
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MannyBianco

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sacraig said:
Not directly, but indirectly. Successful athletics does a few good things. It:
  1. increases the overall visibility of the school, which leads to more student interest and can bolster academic programs;
  2. increases alumni engagement, which can lead to increased giving to both athletic and academic programs; and
  3. increases TV contract money, which can reduce the financial impact of athletic programs on university finances.

I may be missing something but the above are generally true and may well justify letting a handful of people in to play sports who might not otherwise have had the academic chops.
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I agree with your points here. It pains me to say it, but Michigan is very good at balancing both in such a way that each enhances the other.
 
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When I read the comment, I wondered if CoHawk’s decision will be affected by what Brazile does?
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I would love to see Hawk and Brazile on the floor together. Brazile seemed to not back down from Kofi although I think his blocks on him were weak side rotation plays(i think...). Maybe he could play the 5 in a spread.

Let me add that i think a lot hinges on what Kofi does.
 
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DMWSuperFan

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sacraig said:
Not directly, but indirectly. Successful athletics does a few good things. It:
  1. increases the overall visibility of the school, which leads to more student interest and can bolster academic programs;
  2. increases alumni engagement, which can lead to increased giving to both athletic and academic programs; and
  3. increases TV contract money, which can reduce the financial impact of athletic programs on university finances.

I may be missing something but the above are generally true and may well justify letting a handful of people in to play sports who might not otherwise have had the academic chops.
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I would caution this to a few points.

doesn’t money earned by the athletic program typically stay in the athletic program?

I think it works to a certain point. There are a lot of schools out there that are already very well known, so visibility only helps smaller schools, or athletic programs directly. While I’m sure SOME alumnus out there has donated to the academic side of the university because they liked what they saw on the basketball court, I imagine it does not happen often.

Now it certainly helps the community and this the property taxes and thus the funding, but I don’t think it has a major impact on a power 5 school - once that school is known nationwide, I don’t think most people that are going to go somewhere because that school is good at basketball or football will move the academic needle at schools like Illinois. It won’t be a massive number of applicants and Illinois all ready turns away a ton of applicants. Hard to believe that someone who wants to go to Illinois because the basketball team is really good and is exceptional academically, at least not enough applicants relative to the application pool. Even if 1,000 students apply that otherwise would’ve gone to a different school, that’s not going to make a big difference at a big school like Illinois.
 
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derrick6

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sacraig said:
Not directly, but indirectly. Successful athletics does a few good things. It:
  1. increases the overall visibility of the school, which leads to more student interest and can bolster academic programs;
  2. increases alumni engagement, which can lead to increased giving to both athletic and academic programs; and
  3. increases TV contract money, which can reduce the financial impact of athletic programs on university finances.

I may be missing something but the above are generally true and may well justify letting a handful of people in to play sports who might not otherwise have had the academic chops.
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Could result in academic reputation going down.
 
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