illini80
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I have him down for 23.5 minutes per game. Guaranteed.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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Something you will NEVER hear from a head coach:
“I just have TOO MUCH talent here and I CAN’T figure out how to use it!”
Seriously though... some things just come to the fore organically. How a guy is playing overall. Who seizes the opportunity most. Who fits the best with his teammates – and when. Who shows the leadership ability and talent to perform in key situations. And who doesn’t.
Good coaches are mind-readers and psychologists and great situational critics and maybe a touch of a soothsayer. They will pick up on things not seen by fans or anyone else. They will peer into the minds and souls of their players and the pieces just begin to emerge in the best ways they fit.
And lesser coaches are ones that have talent on the floor and can’t use it properly.
The bigger problem for any coach is NOT having enough talent and guys to fill out the floor and all the roles properly.
And it doesn’t take discerning fans very long to assess what kind of coach your program has.
I wasn’t speaking of the players taking part in this type of exercise. You’re right, they’re likely doing it and it could/will impact potential transfer decisions. I was speaking to all the posts predicting minute breakdowns — and then responses to them. I understand trying to figure out who will start and/or be in the rotation, but assigning minute counts now is a bit silly.
Dee_4_Three_83
- Mahomet, IL
If it's true that there are several transfer portal players that don't find a home, then I think small Div 1 schools would have their pick of the "leftovers". If anything, I think the portal most likely helps student athletes find a coach/program/school that they fit with better for various reasons we have discussed ad nauseam on the board.
For those that can't find the school match they want, they will turn to the smaller schools without NIL power. Overall, I think an already fairly balanced competition level between small schools and the power 5 conferences will become even more balanced during this time, but the possibility for some super teams in the upper echelon may result in there being only a few contenders for the title, which is really already the case. Every year teams have to gel, this is nothing new.
Those players that don't find homes will most likely become cautionary tales and will eventually result in less transfer portal action in the smaller conferences for fear of losing a spot and not being able to find another one.
Dang, what happened to that dude? He ended up committing to New Mexico but don't think he qualified.. did he go JuCo or something? Can't find anything on him. Seems like he just disappeared. Feel bad for these sort of guys, hope it's not the same kind of thing for Reggie Bass.You mean this guy?? One of our "Twin Towers"?
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
Accurate list but you forgot one:Well, let's see:
(1) Insiders vindicated
(2) HDick angry and lashing out on social media at TTU, only to have UM Athletic admin box his ears. Posts subsequently retracted.
(3) Pete Nance on the table for us (perhaps)
(4) @Deep's kid in Champaign for college visit (it went well)
(5) Long discussion of where to lunch on said visit, including heartfelt reminiscences about campus eateries of yore that have gone to the great kitchen in the sky
(6) Subthread on timeline for expansions of Murphy's Pub since the late '80s. Revelation that adjoining BW3 was spectacularly mismanaged, leading to its demise, and that a certain poster on the board participated eagerly in said mismanagement.
(7) Debate concerning acting chops and range of John C. Reilly. Various John C Reilly GIFs beyond the std Loyalty offerings, including a fave of mine from Boogie Nights.
(8) Opposition to use of GIFs (particularly repeating the same ones) as communication medium on Loyalty
(9) Yours truly arguing the counter that, in fact, GIFs are an extremely potent communication tool, facilitate Loyalty member bonding, provide well-needed humor, and are (along with texting) an important emergent communication medium
(10) GIF of guy diving into swimming pool full of cash; allusion to Dan
(11) Banner day for Loyalty board, extending well into the night and the LAD VIP suite.
(12) Yeoman efforts of LAD participants to push the thread to 40/1k
(13) Morning revelation that @BretMyBeachHouse induced Dan to Crean various posts so that his would be the one-thousandth.
That's just off the top of my head. I ain't wading through 41 pages and 1,014 posts to refresh my memory.
(14) Call your dad!!!
MustangWally
- Mayfield
Maybe Dan should declare Sunday a day of rest for the recruiting thread. Everyone must be exhausted by now. Allow for some time to catch up on the daily threads. Spend some time with the family. Pick it up again on Monday. 
Joel Goodson
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sacraig
- The desert
This is not exclusive to just these two fan bases. Everyone not named Michigan hates Michigan.
It is truly remarkable how Michigan manages to unite everybody in common hatred of them. Anybody who even gets a whiff in contact with that program comes away with a massive dislike of everything surrounding them. What other team could get their asses kicked by their big rivals in football for nearly 20 straight years and still have every other fan in the Conference cheering against them in that game each year?
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
gets a whiff "" of a steaming pile of cow dung "" that is scUM..................
Northwestern big man Ryan Young has transferred to Duke. Averaged 20 MPG over the last 3 years for the Cats. Transfers like this and Jalen Coleman-Lands going to Kansas last year make me realize that the 'Final Form' is being so good that players want to come in, have their minutes slashed, to play 8 minutes per game as essentially "ring chasers"
You know the selling point for CH is that in the modern NBA he could play both at the 4 (mostly) and at the 5. He may not seem like he has the size to play the 5 (he wouldn’t against Embeed ect), but he would for the many times NBA teams play small. I think adding Nance and keeping CH with Dane is a pretty interesting front court. We would then just need a bruiser to play minutes if our 3 primary front court players got into foul trouble. Not sure who that player is because you surely would want Nance, CH and Dane getting most of the 80 minutes for the two positions. Who ever it is can’t be expecting to play a ton. Maybe Lieb can make enough progress to fill that role?
Maybe Illinois can propose making games longer so there are enough minutes for everyone
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
Eh, forget being a ring chaser, he's not even getting a tournament appearance at Northwestern... also can't see him playing pro ball, so he's going to be getting a master's degree from a good school
Because Dick Coward is their best representative. I hope TSJ fires up whenever he plays MeatChicken.
I can’t blame him. He has a northwestern degree and can now add Duke to his resume. He knows he won’t play pro, but maybe a few years overseas. He was looking at big ten schools as well, so I am happy he chose Duke. He is a solid player.
Right on the money he would have been good at Illinois in a similar role. That’s why I am surprised BBV wants to leave. He is already accepted into law school at the UofI. If he goes to like Harvard I get it, but then he has to pay for it?
think some to seem to want a 2017-18 level minutes allocation (10 players all above 10 MPG) just to try and keep people happy. Issue there is nobody (except Black, I think his injury history stopped him from ever having the conditioning to be like a 30 MPG guy, and he was in foul trouble a lot) was any good, hence why why we weren't giving anybody big minutes. There is no real reason to go deeper than 8 if your starters are legit. Like Kansas top 4 were all playing above 29 MPG.
2008-09 UNC and 2014-15 Kentucky are the only two that immediately jump to mind as teams that had deep rotations just because they literally had too many players that were too good to keep off the floor. In just about every other case, you're going to have a natural separation emerge and you want your best players on the floor as much as they can play.
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I wonder if he's got his degree? I'm guessing less ring chasing and more degree chasing, but who knows.
Scheyer and Collins relationship must be interesting.
Yeah, he's a Grad Transfer, so already has a Northwestern degree and now likely trying to add a Duke one. It's a good point, Duke's academics gives them a nice leg up to get players without much pro potential that are content to ride the bench.
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Nappy I_L_L
- Northern Indiana
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Salty Michigan fans on SB nation…
Salty Michigan fans on SB nation…
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