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Colorado and Walters. He is too good. He played for them
I hope the stability of the big ten vs other conferences (minus the SEC) keeps him here.

The fact of the matter is nobody knows what conference Colorado will be in, and therefore, what their resources will be, what their facilities will look like, how televised their games will be, how many people will care about the program, etc.

I can see if he leaves for a big ten or sec program. But I’d be hesitant to step outside those conferences at the moment.
 
#203      
If Leonhard was a lock, why is he getting the interim tag? Sounds like the big money boys want Leipold. This could backfire. Wouldn't that be a shame?
There may be something to this Leipold thing, but even if there wasn't it would make sense for Wisconsin to try out Leonhard as an interim. For one, if it's an unmitigated disaster you get an easy out. Second, I imagine an interim HC makes considerably less than whatever long term deal Leonhard will get would have him making. They may be looking at Leipold but I think they'd be doing the interim try-out with Leonhard even if they weren't.
 
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Didn’t we also get Dantoni fired. It’s almost like the job requirement is, “Whatever. But if you lose to the Illini, pack your shizzit.”
That's exactly what it is. I've listened to a lot of Wisconsin podcasts since Saturday and NO ONE mentions that we actually might be a good team. Just that Wisconsin sucks. #@%& them.
 
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BZuppke

Plainfield
Strange things happen in college sports but Leipold is only in his second year at Kansas. I think he would do better for himself having a few good seasons and then taking a better job than Wisconsin. I don’t think it would be a good look for him to jump ship that quickly.

As to Walters Colorado has not been good for a long while and they could be left in the dust during realignment. Would you hire a young guy with zero head coaching experience at this point? I think Rick George wants and needs his own version of Bielema - someone with a proven track record.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
That's exactly what it is. I've listened to a lot of Wisconsin podcasts since Saturday and NO ONE mentions that we actually might be a good team. Just that Wisconsin sucks. #@%& them.
In a way they're counting on us being a good team.

If they just made a bad Illinois team look like an illusion, then the wheels could continue to fall off, make Jim Leonhard look bad, and leave them in a real pickle.

If Illinois is good and is the contender in the weak West that it appears, Wisky truly does not play anybody until Minnesota on Thanksgiving weekend. It's easy to see them getting to 7-5 and very neatly executing the switcheroo they're attempting.

So from Barry Alvarez' mouth to God's ears: GO ILLINI
 
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Illinivek23

Gurnee
There may be something to this Leipold thing, but even if there wasn't it would make sense for Wisconsin to try out Leonhard as an interim. For one, if it's an unmitigated disaster you get an easy out. Second, I imagine an interim HC makes considerably less than whatever long term deal Leonhard will get would have him making. They may be looking at Leipold but I think they'd be doing the interim try-out with Leonhard even if they weren't.
Reminds me of Leopold and Loeb - that did not turn out well.
 
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Strange things happen in college sports but Leipold is only in his second year at Kansas. I think he would do better for himself having a few good seasons and then taking a better job than Wisconsin. I don’t think it would be a good look for him to jump ship that quickly.
Fair, but I'm sure a lot of people said the same thing about Underwood/OK St.
 
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RedRocksIllini

Morrison, CO
Strange things happen in college sports but Leipold is only in his second year at Kansas. I think he would do better for himself having a few good seasons and then taking a better job than Wisconsin. I don’t think it would be a good look for him to jump ship that quickly.

As to Walters Colorado has not been good for a long while and they could be left in the dust during realignment. Would you hire a young guy with zero head coaching experience at this point? I think Rick George wants and needs his own version of Bielema - someone with a proven track record.
I'll honestly be surprised if Rick George hires anybody. His last two coaching hires have not gone well to put it mildly. He's also been vocal about staying with the PAC12 which has to look to boosters like a sure path to irrelevance. There is still a lot of resentment about the move to the PAC12 in the first place.

I didn't think they could afford to fire Dorrell but I suppose it got to the point where they couldn't afford not to. The same may be true of George.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
I’m old enough to remember when Wisconsin was a doormat and young enough to see it again.
POTD for those above a certain age. I've said it often on the Board: if you'd assured me in January 1990 (or in Jan '91 after Barry went 1-10 in his first year there) that Wisconsin would win the BT and the Rose bowl in '93/'94 I would have had to be hospitalized due to convulsions and oxygen deprivation resulting from my disbelieving laughter.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
As to Walters Colorado has not been good for a long while and they could be left in the dust during realignment. Would you hire a young guy with zero head coaching experience at this point?
No, frankly. I'm unavoidably biased but no.

I've seen Bronco Mendenhall's name get mentioned. I would hire Tom Herman personally.

The uncertainty of what conference they're playing in definitely hurts them. How do you know what staff to build if you don't know if you're going to be in a California-centered league or a Texas-centered league?

(I'm like 92.4% sure the Pac 12 stays together, but the schools are extremely jumpy and panicky and vulnerable to making an irrational decision right now)
 
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aiwpfan

Springfield, Il
Yup, and.that shoe fits. Until proven otherwise, there are now two Nebraskas in the West.
One must wonder, if rather than on-field performance, there was some off-field thing going on that forced the AD to pull the trigger.
Home fridge full of Labatts instead of PBR? Counterfeit cheese?
 
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aiwpfan

Springfield, Il
No, frankly. I'm unavoidably biased but no.

I've seen Bronco Mendenhall's name get mentioned. I would hire Tom Herman personally.

The uncertainty of what conference they're playing in definitely hurts them. How do you know what staff to build if you don't know if you're going to be in a California-centered league or a Texas-centered league?

(I'm like 92.4% sure the Pac 12 stays together, but the schools are extremely jumpy and panicky and vulnerable to making an irrational decision right now)
Harsin might be a good pick for Colorado, too. Frankly, if you had told me that Chryst was going to be fired before Harsin, I'd be hitting you up for stock picks right now.
 
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POTD for those above a certain age. I've said it often on the Board: if you'd assured me in January 1990 (or in Jan '91 after Barry went 1-10 in his first year there) that Wisconsin would win the BT and the Rose bowl in '93/'94 I would have had to be hospitalized due to convulsions and oxygen deprivation resulting from my disbelieving laughter.
I'm so old I also remember when Ioway went 20 years without a .500 record-- but of course I remember the slush fund scandal while I was there too. Or, maybe both of those are a product of my imagination?
 
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There may be something to this Leipold thing, but even if there wasn't it would make sense for Wisconsin to try out Leonhard as an interim. For one, if it's an unmitigated disaster you get an easy out. Second, I imagine an interim HC makes considerably less than whatever long term deal Leonhard will get would have him making. They may be looking at Leipold but I think they'd be doing the interim try-out with Leonhard even if they weren't.
Leonhard makes 1.5 mil a year as DC. That’s his salary for the rest of the year no matter what title he has. Gritty is right Wisconsin is scared to death of losing Leonhard and this gives him the chance to earn the HC job.(which he should given the easy schedule left). Personally I don’t think Leipold is the guy for a school like Wisconsin….academic hurdles would hold him back.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
I'm so old I also remember when Ioway went 20 years without a .500 record-- but of course I remember the slush fund scandal while I was there too. Or, maybe both of those are a product of my imagination?
I do, too. BT football in the '70s was largely tedious. Seven weeks of flaccid games (including, with rare exceptions, weekly blowouts by OSU & Michigan.) Then one consequential game the Saturday before Thanksgiving in either Ann Arbor or Columbus. Michigan State was generally the only program within shouting distance of those two teams (and, if you can believe it, Northwestern under Alex Agase in '70-'72.)

Jim Young (Purdue), Hayden Fry and Mike White changed that at the end of the decade for the better.
 
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Leonhard makes 1.5 mil a year as DC. That’s his salary for the rest of the year no matter what title he has. Gritty is right Wisconsin is scared to death of losing Leonhard and this gives him the chance to earn the HC job.(which he should given the easy schedule left). Personally I don’t think Leipold is the guy for a school like Wisconsin….academic hurdles would hold him back.
Makes sense, just pointing out that he's almost certainly getting a considerable bump as part of a long term deal as HC, so why give him that now, and pay him a bunch more, when you can just defer that pay bump by a few months? Any employer with that option would take it.
 
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Makes sense, just pointing out that he's almost certainly getting a considerable bump as part of a long term deal as HC, so why give him that now, and pay him a bunch more, when you can just defer that pay bump by a few months? Any employer with that option would take it.
And the interim tag doesn’t completely handcuff them to Leonhard if for some reason it doesn’t work out.
 
#221      

MustangWally

Mayfield
Leonhard makes 1.5 mil a year as DC. That’s his salary for the rest of the year no matter what title he has. Gritty is right Wisconsin is scared to death of losing Leonhard and this gives him the chance to earn the HC job.(which he should given the easy schedule left). Personally I don’t think Leipold is the guy for a school like Wisconsin….academic hurdles would hold him back.
Leipold is 58 years old. Kansas may be his last job.
 
#223      

MustangWally

Mayfield
No, frankly. I'm unavoidably biased but no.

I've seen Bronco Mendenhall's name get mentioned. I would hire Tom Herman personally.

The uncertainty of what conference they're playing in definitely hurts them. How do you know what staff to build if you don't know if you're going to be in a California-centered league or a Texas-centered league?

(I'm like 92.4% sure the Pac 12 stays together, but the schools are extremely jumpy and panicky and vulnerable to making an irrational decision right now)
92.47 percent, to be precise. :)

logical star trek GIF
 
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