They’re fighting with a vim.
MSU-Michigan Postgame Scuffle
I believe it was the 1953 game at Iowa... big fight, lots of thrown 'things'.... at us... We didn't play Iowa again until 1967... So this kind of behavior is not new...
How long was Howard suspended for punching Gard in the face? It will be less than that.
sacraig
- The desert
It's been like that for, what, a century? Yet teams generally don't jump each other.
No, this'll happen when one team acts like a group of a-holes. And for once it's seemingly not scUM.
I was surprised that Mi player was in the tunnel and not with his team on the field. Unless he came to a msu player he knew. It will all come out in the wash.
It's more about the timing that Michigan uses for teams entering and leaving the tunnel. Especially for a rivalry game like Michigan-Michigan State, there should be better work of timing when the teams come in and out of the tunnel.
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
yup make UM wait while the visitors use it first. Why has the B1G taken forever to require this ? especially after the PSU game
He punched the assistant. Remaining regular season, which I believe was 5 games?
The fact that there was just one scum player makes me think he was not following established protocol.
It absolutely is scUM. There is a reason there have been 2 altercations in 3 weeks in that tunnel. The common denominator is UM. This isn't exactly the first time UM has been good either where the program shouldn't know how to act when winning. UM has a culture between FB and BB that has no sportsmanship.
None of that excuses what the MSU players did but like Franklin said this type of situation was brewing.
Horrible take here
Seriously? It’s analogous to…….She was wearing a skirt. She had it coming.
He was injured with an ACL injury and was heading down to get treatment. That’s why he was separated. Lots of times treatment needs to take place as soon as the game ends as trainers want to get home as well.
I think it's fair to say MSU players' actions were inexcusable and punishments should be handed out, while also admitting that Michigan has a habit of running up the score, calling MSU "little brother" even to the media, and performing all around shenanigans almost every year while acting like they are the classiest "michigan men" to walk the planet. No excuse for the behavior, but there needs to be some sort of protocol to have Michigan wait until the other team has completely cleared since for whatever reason they won't build another tunnel. These are amped up young adults full of testosterone who just had their in state rival run the score up on them while probably talking crap the whole game. The way Michigan has this set up is highly increasing the chances of something stupid happening.
Since I've been alive, Michigan has always been extremely poor sports when it comes to running up the score, padding starter's stats late in the game, and being tremendously sore winners (and losers). It's why I hate them more than any other football team. But to gang up and beat up on individual players in the locker room is absolutely inexcusable. Even if the Michigan players were classless jerks in their win, which I wouldn't doubt to be the case if it comes out, you just can't do what the MSU players did. Everyone involved should be immediately suspended for the season if not outright dismissed from the team, and there appears to be plenty of witnesses to corroborate who was involved. As well, I don't know if this is a law in Michigan as well, but in Illinois I'm fairly certain assault and battery as part of a group upgrades the battery charge, which would mean jail time for everyone involved. Ugly ugly situation. The best way to get back at Michigan is to beat and bloody them on the field and ruin their season, not pick off a couple of players in the locker room.
Holy crap.
Yep...this short video shows a good deal more than the first or previous one.....blows with the helmet definitely being delivered...that's gonna get a pretty hefty suspension....don't care how it started....can't allow players to be throwing punches and using their helmets to opponents!
Clearly missed the "none of that excuses what MSU players did"
1st, at least one player they attacked was not in a uniform and they threw punches, used their helmets as a weapon and kicked/stomped the player on the ground. This is assault and they should be charged for 1st degree assault. This needs to go way further than missing 1 to 2 games or the remainder of the season. Tucker is caught on camera taking a swing ay a Walmart Wolverine fan for touching his bald head. Was it right for this idiot to do that? Simply put, NO!! Mel cannot swing at stupid fans but, this and the players ganging up on 2 different UM players can and probably will be used to terminate him.
Totally disagree what the videos show is inexcusable period. No one is saying the player deserved what happened. This is a case of an institution knowing they had the potential for this type of incident and did nothing about it even with warnings. Nor did they put in mitigations to protect the player
how many instances in the history of that tunnel has a scUM player had an interaction with an opposing player (from verbal to physical) An opposing coach this year told the Big Ten that something needed to be done. ScUM coach basically said Franklin was whining because PSU lost
Again what happen in that tunnel was inexcusable and no one should ever have that happen to them. The incident needs to be investigated to the fullest extent of the law. However at the same time the Big Ten and scUM need to come up with a protocol to minimize the chances of this occurring again
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
1000% true and people winding themselves into that take because they hate Michigan so much is the true spirit of college football and I love and support it.
Unfortunately, this thinking is about a decade out of date.
In the CFP era, teams can't just win, they need to impress the committee, and they have to consider making impressive final scores.
It's a widely held belief that OSU doesn't make the 2015 CFP (which they won) if they don't run up the score in their final game to sneak in as a 4 seed. I think every coach in the hunt knows this now, and plays accordingly. Michigan is likely to be in the 4-6 range given their very weak non-conf schedule, so the score could well be a factor in whether or not they get into the CFP.
In this era, if you want a team to stop scoring, play better defense, or keep their offense off the field by driving it down the field yourself. There's too much at stake for teams to step off the gas.
This is Michigan State that we are talking about. It took them 19 years to fire Nassar.
Its a tough call regardless, ,may have jumped to conclusions. In guess I go back to the Ayo thing and MSU getting a pass on his injury.
