Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Someone like Marc Andreesen has no interest whatsoever in signing an NIL deal with James Brown or whatever. That culture doesn't care about sports, is suspicious at best of formal university education, and doesn't have a very nostalgic relationship with their own background, it's a pretty dry well to be pumping.
Marc is deep in the fintech world right now. Deep in it. Him and I cross paths a lot. That industry is very interest in partnerships with sports and athletes.

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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
I would think he would be making an announcement in the next couple of days. Ole Miss bowl game is tonight, so maybe by the weekend?
no one here is 100% sure it’s a deal yet, but assuming it’s him, he can announce his “commitment” whenever he wants .

Maybe BB wants him to wait until after our game - who knows - but we should know in the next 5 days .

yea, it’s a dead week for many of us , work wise , and good news like that would be great right now

if it’s not him , we gotta hope a good one transfers in after spring ball in the allowed window then
 
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I mean not to derail this too far away from football recruiting, but I think you're seeing in the news these days how incompatible the Silicon Valley CEO mindset is with that of a legacy non-profit institution like a Midwestern state university.

The legendary Shad Khan incident was very dumb, but he's not a tech guy and that's pretty much water under the bridge at this point.

Someone like Marc Andreesen has no interest whatsoever in signing an NIL deal with James Brown or whatever. That culture doesn't care about sports, is suspicious at best of formal university education, and doesn't have a very nostalgic relationship with their own background, it's a pretty dry well to be pumping.

The gold mine for Illinois' NIL efforts is us, Illini Nation's boundless poster army.
What was the Khan incident? He could definitely be our T Boone Pickens if he wanted to be
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
What was the Khan incident? He could definitely be our T Boone Pickens if he wanted to be
The UI Administration scuttled plans to give Khan an honorary doctorate over some relatively trivial safety and anti-union issues at Flex-N-Gate, his company in Urbana. This was like ten years ago.

And the fish story about how he had been on the verge of writing a transformative check to the DIA but sports-hating left wing nutjobs hijacked the process has grown and grown since then. (This requires believing Mike Thomas was the person about to accomplish that, just to be clear how this fits in the timeline).

Meanwhile Khan was and remains a very generous DIA donor and those transformative investments have happened anyway.

The inherent tension between the kind of person who wants to be a tenured professor at a prestigious university and the kind of person who likes college football has existed in all places at all times since Rutgers and Princeton first mucked it up in a New Jersey field. And in all of those places at all of those times that tension has been thought of and portrayed as a localized, special, unique, RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW crisis. And it's never been true.
 
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no one here is 100% sure it’s a deal yet, but assuming it’s him, he can announce his “commitment” whenever he wants .

Maybe BB wants him to wait until after our game - who knows - but we should know in the next 5 days .

yea, it’s a dead week for many of us , work wise , and good news like that would be great right now

if it’s not him , we gotta hope a good one transfers in after spring ball in the allowed window then
If altmeyer is in the portal would he still play/ be available for bowl game?? Wouldn’t Kiffin and staff just say we’re not playing you because you’re in portal? Or maybe they are still working on him to come back to ole miss?
 
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illinidarrin

from parts unknown
If altmeyer is in the portal would he still play/ be available for bowl game?? Wouldn’t Kiffin and staff just say we’re not playing you because you’re in portal? Or maybe they are still working on him to come back to ole miss?
I've seen players announce they are going to transfer and still play in their bowls games. Dove from Missouri and the QB from Coastal Carolina.
 
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TentakilRex

Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
If altmeyer is in the portal would he still play/ be available for bowl game?? Wouldn’t Kiffin and staff just say we’re not playing you because you’re in portal? Or maybe they are still working on him to come back to ole miss?
1. I have no idea about his availability. Besides he would be a backup QB so even if he was available we may not see him
2. Case by case basis, for example Grayson McCall played in his bowl game yesterday
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
If altmeyer is in the portal would he still play/ be available for bowl game?? Wouldn’t Kiffin and staff just say we’re not playing you because you’re in portal? Or maybe they are still working on him to come back to ole miss?
Kiffin and staff aren't playing Altmyer in the bowl game because Jaxson Dart is the starter, which is also why Altmyer is transferring.

But it's definitely an uncomfortable status quo with NIL, the portal, and bowl games

 
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The UI Administration scuttled plans to give Khan an honorary doctorate over some relatively trivial safety and anti-union issues at Flex-N-Gate, his company in Urbana. This was like ten years ago.

And the fish story about how he had been on the verge of writing a transformative check to the DIA but sports-hating left wing nutjobs hijacked the process has grown and grown since then. (This requires believing Mike Thomas was the person about to accomplish that, just to be clear how this fits in the timeline).

Meanwhile Khan was and remains a very generous DIA donor and those transformative investments have happened anyway.

The inherent tension between the kind of person who wants to be a tenured professor at a prestigious university and the kind of person who likes college football has existed in all places at all times since Rutgers and Princeton first mucked it up in a New Jersey field. And in all of those places at all of those times that tension has been thought of and portrayed as a localized, special, unique, RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW crisis. And it's never been true.
Got it- thank you- I do remember the hubbub about large donations should be for academics not athletics - but Khan has obviously been very generous to the engineering school as well

IMHO- any large donor to an athletic program will want to see the fruits of their donation and they want something to be excited about. It used to be you can’t just buy a National title, but with NIL, this is ripe for a guy like Khan to write a huge check- all of a sudden the 5 stars come with 7 figure NIL deals and we have the coaching staff to be a title contender- I’m sure he would want to see winning first - winning a big ten west title for example would go a long way
 
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mattcoldagelli

The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
I think Coastal Carolina still playing a QB who is in the portal is yet another example of the weird liminal space that the non-playoff bowls exist in. If the coaches involved were as hardcore as some on here would seemingly like them to be, they'd be locking that guy out of the facility as soon as he announced his intention to transfer. But they didn't, and nobody thinks it's that weird, because these (non-CFP) bowls are like 40% football game, 60% vacation with your friends.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Thank you for everything Tommy, he was for stretches really excellent and clearly a positive leader and locker room presence and I'd have been happy if he could have gotten the waiver somehow.

Gun to my head though? I'd choose going forward with Altmyer instead, even knowing that there is risk there.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I think Coastal Carolina still playing a QB who is in the portal is yet another example of the weird liminal space that the non-playoff bowls exist in. If the coaches involved were as hardcore as some on here would seemingly like them to be, they'd be locking that guy out of the facility as soon as he announced his intention to transfer. But they didn't, and nobody thinks it's that weird, because these (non-CFP) bowls are like 40% football game, 60% vacation with your friends.
Semi-relatedly, the stuff Deion Sanders is now saying to a public audience is less out-of-step with the actual culture inside these football practice palaces than the rank-and-file college football fan thinks.

Any young person who dedicates themselves to seeking the elite level of sports in 2022 is an entrepreneur, in all the facets that term implies.
 
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Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove
I think Coastal Carolina still playing a QB who is in the portal is yet another example of the weird liminal space that the non-playoff bowls exist in. If the coaches involved were as hardcore as some on here would seemingly like them to be, they'd be locking that guy out of the facility as soon as he announced his intention to transfer. But they didn't, and nobody thinks it's that weird, because these (non-CFP) bowls are like 40% football game, 60% vacation with your friends.
I agree with everything you mention. One other caveat to this specific case is that it is a new coaching staff coming in, versus him entering the portal with the same staff in place. No way the incoming staff wanted him to be forced to sit out bowl game, as they will be pulling out all stops to get him to stay. Forcing him to sit out would nearly ensure that he will not return.
 
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I think Coastal Carolina still playing a QB who is in the portal is yet another example of the weird liminal space that the non-playoff bowls exist in. If the coaches involved were as hardcore as some on here would seemingly like them to be, they'd be locking that guy out of the facility as soon as he announced his intention to transfer. But they didn't, and nobody thinks it's that weird, because these (non-CFP) bowls are like 40% football game, 60% vacation with your friends.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. What are you referencing as to coaches being "hardcore"? It doesn't surprise me at all that they're letting him suit up. And I'm guessing the coaches are happy whenever someone continues on in the bowl game, even when they are going either pro or to another school.
 
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I agree with everything you mention. One other caveat to this specific case is that it is a new coaching staff coming in, versus him entering the portal with the same staff in place. No way the incoming staff wanted him to be forced to sit out bowl game, as they will be pulling out all stops to get him to stay. Forcing him to sit out would nearly ensure that he will not return.
Are there examples of coaching staffs forcing guys to sit when they enter the portal?
 
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Thank you for everything Tommy, he was for stretches really excellent and clearly a positive leader and locker room presence and I'd have been happy if he could have gotten the waiver somehow.

Gun to my head though? I'd choose going forward with Altmyer instead, even knowing that there is risk there.
yeah TDV was honestly so much better than we could have realistically hoped for. Benched at Syracuse, then thrives with a brand new OC at a program that hasn't been able to throw the ball for about a decade. Pour a Heineken and Jaeger bomb out for the gold chained QB with that steady swag we've so desperately needed.
 
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I think Coastal Carolina still playing a QB who is in the portal is yet another example of the weird liminal space that the non-playoff bowls exist in. If the coaches involved were as hardcore as some on here would seemingly like them to be, they'd be locking that guy out of the facility as soon as he announced his intention to transfer. But they didn't, and nobody thinks it's that weird, because these (non-CFP) bowls are like 40% football game, 60% vacation with your friends.
You are right and he got injured in the bowl game. That could impact NIL for him
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
TDV was everything we really could have hoped for, this season, and then some
he took care of the ball and completed 60% of his throws. Just Perfect for BB style of play, and all the 11 play , 60 yard drives to start the games gave our D a big break.
yea, we wish we could have thrown 35 yards downfield more, but we have to assume Lunney had his reasons not too.

would have been nice to get him for another year, but we all knew that was HIGHLY UNLIKELY for us (but seemingly not for other programs tho, and thats my main complaint about this "process" )

We move on. TDV moves on. I wish him nothing but the best. He took a chance on us as much as we did on him.
I must say, when we got him, I could not stop thinking about Pesci's character in Goodfellas. I think us calling him TDV helped minimize that for me
 
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