Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Mr. Tibbs

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Illinois_2_AZ said:
"Every sign indicates that Illinois is in the best spot to land the four-star receiver from Chicago (Ill.) Simeon. Elzy was committed to Cincinnati early on but now with Luke Fickell gone and at Wisconsin, the Badgers could make a play, but the Illini look very strong here."
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If Elzy is all that and a bag chips, he can most likely either start or get a heckuva A LOT of snaps for us next year
Im sure thats what McDonald is telling him
 
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BretMyBeachHouse said:
Are there examples of coaching staffs forcing guys to sit when they enter the portal?
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Not sure. It is so incredibly rare for a player in the portal to actually play in the bowl game (they tend to either sit out or are down in depth chart). Last night is the first time I recall a big name player who already entered the portal to actually start a game with current team. They tend to wait until after bowl game to make that announcement.

I assume most of the time, players sitting out is mutual decision after they enter portal. However, who knows if the staff also makes decision to give playing time to others lower in depth chart who will be with team next year. Why waste first team practice reps on someone who actively is going to another school next year, especially when the game itself is not too important? Last night though, there was incentive to let him play, as there is a new staff who will actively try to recruit him to stay.

If the player really wanted to play the game, they would wait until after Bowl game to announce entering portal, but with NIL in place, they often do not want to get behind 8 ball compared to peers.
 
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skyIdub

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mattcoldagelli said:
I think Coastal Carolina still playing a QB who is in the portal is yet another example of the weird liminal space that the non-playoff bowls exist in. If the coaches involved were as hardcore as some on here would seemingly like them to be, they'd be locking that guy out of the facility as soon as he announced his intention to transfer. But they didn't, and nobody thinks it's that weird, because these (non-CFP) bowls are like 40% football game, 60% vacation with your friends.
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Idk, if a high profile enters the portal late, I still expect there to be plenty of NIL opportunities thrown at them.
 
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Mr. Tibbs said:
TDV was everything we really could have hoped for, this season, and then some
he took care of the ball and completed 70% of his throws. Just Perfect for BB style of play, and all the 11 play , 60 yard drives to start the games gave our D a big break.
yea, we wish we could have thrown 35 yards downfield more, but we have to assume Lunney had his reasons not too.

would have been nice to get him for another year, but we all knew that was HIGHLY UNLIKELY for us (but seemingly not for other programs tho, and thats my main complaint about this "process" )

We move on. TDV moves on. I wish him nothing but the best. He took a chance on us as much as we did on him.
I must say, when we got him, I could not stop thinking about Pesci's character in Goodfellas. I think us calling him TDV helped minimize that for me
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TentakilRex

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Mr. Tibbs said:
TDV was everything we really could have hoped for, this season, and then some
he took care of the ball and completed 60% of his throws. Just Perfect for BB style of play, and all the 11 play , 60 yard drives to start the games gave our D a big break.
yea, we wish we could have thrown 35 yards downfield more, but we have to assume Lunney had his reasons not too.

would have been nice to get him for another year, but we all knew that was HIGHLY UNLIKELY for us (but seemingly not for other programs tho, and thats my main complaint about this "process" )

We move on. TDV moves on. I wish him nothing but the best. He took a chance on us as much as we did on him.
I must say, when we got him, I could not stop thinking about Pesci's character in Goodfellas. I think us calling him TDV helped minimize that for me
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Well said, hopefully one of the NFL teams that takes a chance at is either mine or one of the "QB factories" (KC. Rams. 49ers, etc)
 
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ChiefGritty

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TentakilRex said:
Well said, hopefully one of the NFL teams that takes a chance at is either mine or one of the "QB factories" (KC. Rams. 49ers, etc)
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QB development and training and scouting has gotten so good over the past 25 or so years that "arm strength" and "can make all the throws" have become cliche. It's something everybody's got and doesn't separate players anymore in most cases, not to mention how many huge busts had strong arms and little else.

But TDV has minus arm strength and can't make all the throws, which now really stands out and which the film from our high-wind November will not be kind to. So I doubt he has a chance in the NFL, but I hope I'm wrong. He's very accurate, takes care of the ball, and plays with a good sense of timing, those are all NFL traits too. But I think for a practice squad-type developmental player NFL teams are more keen to take players with flaws they feel coaching can fix rather than flaws coaching can't.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
The U of I is in pretty fantastic health considering the way the state government has pulled the funding rug out from under it.

There's a whole cottage industry that has built up around hating academics and academia and its culture - not entirely without justification - but as public universities go I think we've got one we ought to be relatively proud of, and any claims that its intentionally sabotaging athletics look pretty ridiculous at this point.
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i think the continual spending and raising tuitions has to stop. a "middle class" family with 4 kids a year or two apart could never send them
all to illinois given the cost of higher ed. i am a grad and no way parents could afford tuition today. im not sure my two kids with bachelors/
masters could go today without massive loans. ill get off my soap box now.
 
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ChiefGritty

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The last NFL QB I can recall with TDV-like deficient arm strength was Kellen Moore, who also added the problem of being short, though he had a supernaturally productive, successful and durable college career at Boise State, unlike TDV. Just sort of a souped-up TDV really, elite leader, elite poise, and could put the ball on a dinner plate so long as it was within 20 yards.

Moore went undrafted, kicked around as a backup for a bit, got a brief chance to start with the Cowboys and it went terribly, and he realized he had an arm meant to hold a piece of chalk rather than a football. He's 34 now and I bet he'll have his pick of NFL head coaching jobs this offseason after how well Dallas has done with him as OC.

Both TDV and Art can have coaching in their future too if they want it.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
The UI Administration scuttled plans to give Khan an honorary doctorate over some relatively trivial safety and anti-union issues at Flex-N-Gate, his company in Urbana. This was like ten years ago.

And the fish story about how he had been on the verge of writing a transformative check to the DIA but sports-hating left wing nutjobs hijacked the process has grown and grown since then. (This requires believing Mike Thomas was the person about to accomplish that, just to be clear how this fits in the timeline).

Meanwhile Khan was and remains a very generous DIA donor and those transformative investments have happened anyway.

The inherent tension between the kind of person who wants to be a tenured professor at a prestigious university and the kind of person who likes college football has existed in all places at all times since Rutgers and Princeton first mucked it up in a New Jersey field. And in all of those places at all of those times that tension has been thought of and portrayed as a localized, special, unique, RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW crisis. And it's never been true.
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I have heard Chancellor Jones say his goal is to bring him back into the fold. Hope he is successful. The academia group that was against him being given an honorary doctorate should be ashamed of themselves
 
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ChiefGritty

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Redbull said:
I have heard Chancellor Jones say his goal is to bring him back into the fold. Hope he is successful. The academia group that was against him being given an honorary doctorate should be ashamed of themselves
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He just gave $15 million to the Vet Med school for pet cancer something or other earlier this year.

vetmed.illinois.edu

Khan Family Gift for Cancer Care - Veterinary Medicine at Illinois

The Khan family made a $15 million gift to the University of Illinois oncology program in recognition of the care for their dogs.
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Kams Blueguy

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ChiefGritty said:
I mean not to derail this too far away from football recruiting, but I think you're seeing in the news these days how incompatible the Silicon Valley CEO mindset is with that of a legacy non-profit institution like a Midwestern state university.

The legendary Shad Khan incident was very dumb, but he's not a tech guy and that's pretty much water under the bridge at this point.

Someone like Marc Andreesen has no interest whatsoever in signing an NIL deal with James Brown or whatever. That culture doesn't care about sports, is suspicious at best of formal university education, and doesn't have a very nostalgic relationship with their own background, it's a pretty dry well to be pumping.

The gold mine for Illinois' NIL efforts is us, Illini Nation's boundless poster army.
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Andreesen soured in U of I a long time ago when he tried to donate shares of Netscape in the 90s but the university didn’t want to accept the shares and wanted cash instead
 
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IlliniFan85 said:
I've assumed he was going to Wisconsin ever since Fickell became coach. We are Illinois and I assume bad things no matter what.

Like with RW going to our rival and building a powerhouse. That is just how my brain works. Which sucks.
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to semi-quote the Bob Knight rant, "I'm #$%&in' tired of losing (coaches, transfers and this season's game) to Purdue!"
 
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