I can’t really see any school other than ND being accretive at this point. Texas would have been good but that ship sailed. I think USC/UCLA are great additions; maybe the BIG adds two more western schools to reduce their travel burdens.
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Not really. They should be on par with the B12, at a minimum. Honestly, I think the B12 is going to be the weakest P5 financially.
Joel Goodson
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Tough non-cons are going by the wayside (they're adding SC).
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This. There isn't going to be further expansion for a good while, if at all. The Presidents don't want it and only ND is additive (and they're not joining).
Possibly. Although they currently suck at both sports
Edit: in a previous post I touched on why unlv wouldn’t be a great pick for the PAC, assuming they exist 5 or less years from now…. Basically ya, Vegas market, but it’s an example of a town that won’t care unless they win. Us illini faithful tend to stick around no matter the ratio of w’s to L’s
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Will the Pac-12 break up? Where each team would go if league disintegrates over media rights deal
What's ahead for the Pac-12 -- and college football -- if its top remaining teams depart?
www.cbssports.com
Question for those with more knowledge than I on topics like this.
If the Pac 12 gets totally screwed here, what would the odds be of the Big Ten taking on Wash, Oregon, Cal and Stanford at reduced payouts, with clauses making sure they are not equal, regardless of new media deals, unless current Big Ten teams are at or greater than their current payouts?
If the Pac 12 gets totally screwed here, what would the odds be of the Big Ten taking on Wash, Oregon, Cal and Stanford at reduced payouts, with clauses making sure they are not equal, regardless of new media deals, unless current Big Ten teams are at or greater than their current payouts?
I’d never say never, but it’s been a pretty key point among the Big 10 schools to treat everyone equally. They want to emphasize cohesion and “everybody paddling in the same direction” in who they bring aboard. It’s the basic reason the Big 10 only considers very large, research-driven universities for inclusion.
While the SEC has a different focus than the Big 10, it follows the same philosophy of treating every member equally.
You can point to the implosion of some other conferences where there was unequal treatment. The disparity between Texas and the rest of the Big 12 is the main case in point, but you could also look at the conflict between the football and non-football halves of the old Big East as examples.
While it’s true that several of the remaining PAC schools fit the profile of a Big 10 university - Oregon, Washington, Cal, Stanford, Utah, Colorado, Arizona - it does not currently look like the Big 10 would be able to bring them in on equal terms with the rest of the conference without the current members taking a financial hit.
Mr. Tibbs
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it makes no sense to have a conference where some schools are "more equal" than others
that concept never works long term for anyone, and save UChicago during the War deciding to go the way of the Ivy league and minimize intercollegiate sports , the B1G doesnt lose members.
from a purely sports basis, I would love to see Stanford . Washington and Oregon in the league, but sadly , it just doesnt make financial sense. Its too bad
that concept never works long term for anyone, and save UChicago during the War deciding to go the way of the Ivy league and minimize intercollegiate sports , the B1G doesnt lose members.
from a purely sports basis, I would love to see Stanford . Washington and Oregon in the league, but sadly , it just doesnt make financial sense. Its too bad
Wow, Ohio state canceling a series with Washington. The huskies are near-blue-blood. Even a playoff appearance.
Don’t know this, but seems like motivation is to match up two marquee big 10 teams than a disrespect to Washington. But still, bad sign for those not a part of the ‘big 2’
Don’t know this, but seems like motivation is to match up two marquee big 10 teams than a disrespect to Washington. But still, bad sign for those not a part of the ‘big 2’
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Motivation is minimizing risk of taking a non-conference loss, pure and simple. Making the playoffs is the name of the game.
Mr. Tibbs
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a team with two losses will still have a chance.
with three losses ? no
I totally get it and agree having non-equals is not ideal or something anyone wants.
That said, what if a temporary (even if it’s long term temporary) unequal option is better than other equal options across other conferences for those pac 12 schools?
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Lede: Realignment expert Tony Altimore says that Florida State, Miami, Washington, and Stanford are the best fits for the Big Ten.
The below YouTube video is a thorough look at conference fit for Big Ten--and other conferences'--expansion options. Far more thorough than an article or ESPN clip. It's Tony Altimore, who has appeared on myriad shows talking about this topic, explaining with charts and graphs. Podcast is "The Voice of College Football".
https://www.youtube.com/live/zqZaaGIuLaQ
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Just my personal speculation, but I don't take it at face value. I think there is more to it. I think the PAC-12 is still getting shopped around in a way that would affect the game or negotiations. FWIW, I think the PAC-12 is way weaker than the B12, and the media deal issue is feeding into the problem. Be interesting to see if they announce a decent media rights deal, or it winds up destabilizing them even more. The worse the deal, the more incentive for the better teams in the league to bolt. Very curious to see how it develops --they keep saying they're close and they're unified, but I'm not buying it.
BZuppke
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Didn’t watch the video but can’t imagine those Florida schools have the academics to be B1G schools.
Joel Goodson
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with all due respect, the PAC is not weaker than the B12.
IlliniKat91
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Miami, like Illinois, is a school full of incredibly intelligent kids who take the adage, "Work hard, party harder," seriously. Miami and FSU have the academic chops.
Florida State and Miami are tied at 55 in US News and World Report rankings. Only 6 Big Tens schools are higher.
Joel Goodson
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VG to great schools. From a fan standpoint, they'd be excellent adds (well, maybe not Cal (but we sucked hard too, so not gonna be a hypocrite)). Thing is, from a pure financial perspective they're dilutive.
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
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Are B1G meetings happening this week? Could we see a division/rivalry setup announced?
IlliniMike_Aurora
Straight outta Champaign
Since football goes first - what will be the most “featured” game ? USC -OSU
Then turning to hoops - Although I’m not interested it will probably be - UCLA - Purdue
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