Malik Hall was at Sunrise Christian. Basically none of those guys are misses from Illinois.
This is basically why I say location doesn't mean much anymore. The best players more times than not are leaving home to play at prep schools.
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This is basically why I say location doesn't mean much anymore. The best players more times than not are leaving home to play at prep schools.
I’d say the OP listed 3 guys who quit in their team when their play necessitated they play a lesser role. I listed 4 guys who have persevered through adversity and little playing time to earn a significant role.
Give me my 4 ten times out of ten.
Yuri Collins?
Someone will say he’s too short.
Yes, he is tough and 5'8" at that. So much for you gotta have a 6'4" point gaurd to be successful. The most important thing is getting the job done. He checks all the boxes on offense of a point gaurd without being too much of a liability on defense.
Interesting stat I heard recently: The last 30 ncaa champs have had at least one starter 6'3" or shorter
I always felt those Villanova teams were like the flying illini. Bunch of guys 6'4" to 6'9".Interesting stat I heard recently: The last 30 ncaa champs have had at least one starter 6'3" or shorter
Indiana basketball roster: Who is leaving, returning for 2024?
The Indiana Hoosiers are losing key players, but here are the potential returnees for the 2023-24 season.
Is there an article like this for Illinois?
Ratings and stars do not paint a good picture of the player. I agree there should be an overall rating but I like to know how good of a shooter, passer, free throw shooter, basketball IQ, quickness, athleticism etc I think if you look at some high ranked players it is based on potential and their current abilities don’t equal that rating.
I hardly think Epps took the brunt of Brads negative feedback this year.
Pretty sure he’s an equal opportunity employer in that way.
More accurately: we beat UCLA and Texas with Skyy on the bench at crunch time. Like Adam Miller, Underwood trusted Skyy enough to start him, but not enough to have him be one of the five in the floor at the end of games.
The recent Nova teams? Brunson started for both at 6'1"
Yup, he gave us minutes at PG but wasn't a closer yet. And then he never was. Certainly having to make those minutes and movement hurt alot but not directly from his production. You just gotta make those minutes and responsibilities up at a critical position mid -season. We looked better chemistry wise at times but never with continuity. The plus side, IMO, lessons learned for and about the rest of the freshmen class we might not have gotten.
Might not have been the worst of the outcomes when we look back in a year.
There is a difference between yelling, tough love, and losing control. Yelling may be constructive. Tough love can be constructive. Unfortunately if one lipreads Underwood during the Epps/Underwood clip, Underwood does not say one constructive thing in the entire rant. Not one statement of "you need to do X", or "why didn't you do Y". It is pure anger and foaming at the mouth swearing. The kid already knew he screwed up. The swearing was a clear negative value action; 100% fault to Underwood. He owes Epps a major apology. After the first few sentences, an assistant should have stepped in-between just like they do to keep Underwood away from the refs. Long term, Underwood needs to learn this isn't a productive behavior. If his beef is people telling him he needs to calm down and think more before the swearing rants, then IMO he should listen, and get far more anger counseling, or get out of coaching (not just out of UI). I'm not one for coddling. That applies to coaches as well as players.
Ok….who are these people??? Give it a rest already! BU is our coach until told otherwise and you have no control over it!
Apparently, a bunch of people who have an aversion to coaches yelling at players when they screw up. It seems they think it is detrimental to the mental health of the youth of today.
TSJ is the only one to earn the near legendary "fart noise" that everyone loves to mention.
Wow, I always thought he was bigger. Certainly played bigger. One that got away (I thought we were second choice but could just be orange colored memory)
See: Tom Izzo... He seems to have done "alright" over the last several years...
He was listed as 6'3 in college, now 6'2 in the NBA...6'1 his senior year in high school.
We have math people on here, figure this out.To be fair, different people excel better under different coaching styles. Some like myself performed best under strict no-nonsense coaches and performed worse with the so-called "players coaches". And others perform better with the opposite. And both styles have been very successful for teams and disastrous for other teams. It's that connection between the coach and players that's important. And if a potential recruit doesn't really feel that connection or doesn't quite jive with the coaching style of the coach he's being recruited by, I think it's actually a pretty mature decision for a kid at that age to say "no thank you" and it'll likely work best for both parties. And that's not saying that Brad can't be a great coach or developer of that player or that they couldn't excel under his tutelage, and it's not an indictment of the recruit's toughness or capabilities, or their willingness to put forth effort. All it is is a kid saying, I'm not sure this is the best fit for me and I think this other coach and I might have a better chance of getting the most out of me.
And really, that's the type of decision you'd want your kid to make at that age, right? If you think a certain school is a better for you academically than Illinois, you should go there (like Chasson Randle and Stanford per se), if you think a different coach/school will develop you better and give you a better potential chance for success professionally, you should go there, and if you think a coach along with his system and current roster gives you a better opportunity to not only maximize your improvement and development as a player, but also utilize you more optimally and give you a better chance to showcase your talents, I'd say go there as well.
In the end, so long as a kid says that they believe School A gives them better chances at long-term success combines with collegiate opportunities and that's why they chose to enroll there, it's difficult for me to argue against it.
That reminds me of when I was on campus and walked past Dee Brown one day. His playing height was listed as 6'0" but I'm 6'0" exactly and there's no way I didn't have a couple inches on him. That said, he had a lovely gal under each arm and had the biggest smile in the world on his face when I said hi to him, so hell, he could have told me he was 7'8" and I'd take his word for it and write it down in his bio.He was listed as 6'3 in college, now 6'2 in the NBA...6'1 his senior year in high school.
Funny how players tend to universally shrink in those few months between college and getting drafted... Almost like the college would give them an extra inch or two to try strengthening their profile...
See Nowell from Kansas State. 5’8” and totally dominated the game. Belo with smarts and a shot.
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