Agreed, it is extremely difficult to make an NBA roster especially if shooting is an issue. I am not sure what Hawkins is earning in NIL but if he stayed it should increase. If it's unlikely that you make a roster or can be paid better overseas, which i doubt then why not return and enjoy being a well paid college athlete
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Or maybe he got what he deserved and the Staff is taking the high road as far as commenting on it.
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Insiders, does this situation ring any bells from the 2020-21 season? I see he played six games for the team that season. Coleman seems to think it’s false.
I didn't think I could love that dude any more than I already did - tell em Coleman!
sacraig
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In the case of very good players, not elite players, perhaps second round selections in the NBA or good candidates for decent jobs on international teams.
How does the first year salary in the NBA or on a international team compare with the NIL $$$$ they are likely to get returning to college.
Anyone have any ballpark figues or informed guesses????
How does the first year salary in the NBA or on a international team compare with the NIL $$$$ they are likely to get returning to college.
Anyone have any ballpark figues or informed guesses????
For some of us old-timers, there was also Professor Richard Scanlon's Classical Civ class where he regularly dressed as Apollo and made predictions of upcoming Illini football and basketball games.
CH is on another level now and will always be with Illini fans. After this
no one can question his loyalty to Illinois or his 
for coach BU. I hope he comes back and gets a fat NIL deal. Going to be hard not to “pay” this man his money for one more year. I have officially become a serious CH fan and for any of you that have seen my criticism of his game at times, I am all in on CH.
Got what he deserved?
Checking out of this discussion now. Should've known nuance wouldn't be welcomed lol
ChiefGritty
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The rookie NBA minimum is close to $1M now. Two-way deals are only pro-rated for the number of days the player is actually with the NBA team so they wind up much lower.
It was reported that Oscar Tshiebwe earned $2.75M this year at Kentucky, though that's the absolute high end for an NPOY type player at an elite program. Reports were that Kofi was offered something like $1M to stay. Nijel Pack's deal at Miami was reported as 2yrs, 400k per year, though that was just the one deal, he's free to pursue others, Tshiebwe was a total figure of multiple endorsements. And of course the school provides housing, food, etc, all of which would need to be paid for out of any pro salary.
The top Euro guys make multimillion dollar salaries, but there is no draft or collective bargaining agreement in international basketball and they aren't going to pay major money to an unproven amateur who hasn't done anything over there yet. 500k is probably a top of market figure for a guy leaving college. I have no idea what Kofi would be making in Japan, I've never heard of the Japanese league.
D-Leaguers who aren't signed to the NBA team still make next to nothing.
Long story short, guys who don't have very, very certain draftable grades are going to stop leaving school if they're smart and want to maximize their opportunity to get paid to play basketball.
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MadtownIllin
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Loved that class. Took as an elective and never missed a class. I think it was Tue/Thu late afternoon and the lecture room was always packed--no one missed it to start the weekend early...
I read somewhere Kofi earned an equivalent of 600k in Japan. Which is pretty good i think. I have no idea what he may have earned here to compare it to. If Hawkins could earn that I wouldn't blame him outside then NBA then he may leave. Right now the NBA is a stretch so being paid well here may be as rewarding. It is just very important he gets accurate information over the next few weeks. I would love if Hawkins comes back. I wish him nothing but the best and pockets full of cash.
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CH is at a whole nother level now in my eyes. The way he's going to bat for coach....I hope that eliminates the BS from some that he was too hard. Everyone has their own opinions, but I'll take those from Ayo, Trent, DW, CH and TJS....those in practice who can put coaches reactions into context.
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One factor is most faculty got their degrees elsewhere so they may be fans, but of another school (primarily). Example: I'm a professor at one Division 1 school that is not Illinois and I waste time all day posting on IllinoisLoyalty because this is where my loyalties lie. A close colleague of mine his is an OSU fan, another is a Michigan fan, etc.
I'm not here to defend or oppose Underwood, but the condescension some have towards a portion of the fanbase for being critical of Underwood's coaching style is perpetuating a problem. I know full well that Underwood is not an exception to the rule with his yelling, cursing, and name calling from the sideline. But there lies the problem.. In no other setting would it EVER be acceptable to yell the things coaches yell at 18 year old kids. Not to your coworkers, boss, friends, children, shoot, even your dog. To me, the fact that it's socially acceptable for a coach to call a player explicit names and verbally berate them in practice or live television in 2023 is sad. I'm all for accountability, toughness, shoot, even constructive yelling. I've coached for many years and NEVER, I repeat NEVER called my players names. I may say something like "on that play you gave minimal effort, that was lazy defense and it is unacceptable." You can be a tough coach, that demands the best out of your athletes without belittling them as humans. That's not soft, it's truth. Maybe it's a reflection of a change that is needed in the college athletic coaching.
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I will happily pay Coleman $1k for a birthday party appearance if it gets us closer to a national title next year. No capCH is on another level now and will always be with Illini fans. After this
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I will happily pay Coleman $1k for a birthday party appearance if it gets us closer to a national title next year. No cap
Coleman has become my new favorite Illini player. We must keep Coleman at all cost!!
yes but still not a great look from a former roster player. If Curbelo, Tev, Griffin, etc come out saying the same it becomes an issue.
WRT Edgar Padilla
-- How could he have been robbed of thousands of dollars?
--He was a walk on who played in 5 games and transferred out after 1 season.
--the 20/21 Illini team was not B10 regular season champions, the B10 declared Michigan the B10 champs. I don't think team got rings but I could be wrong.
I had Scanlon for Classical Civ and Gotheil for Econ 101 my freshman year. Very entertaining classes. Much more fun than my boring math, physics, chemistry classes I was taking for my Elec Engineering degree.
NBA physical-talent HAS never been better (overall). But the game as played on the court has suffered since the years the Bulls were winning titles.
If someone likes scores in the 140s and no defense... that's fine. But the floor game is out of balance towards offense. And some of us can see that.
NBA teams of today would routinely beat NBA teams from years ago. That's pretty much a given (overall). But that doesn't mean that today's NBA is playing a better and more watchable style of basketball.
And college basketball is better than ever in terms of player talent. It's just got greater overall team balance among the Top 50.
I think everyone would take comments from that set of names with a massive salt tablet
They did win the big ten tourney that year, so maybe that’s what he was referring to. Not sure if the team had rings made for that.WRT Edgar Padilla
-- How could he have been robbed of thousands of dollars?
--He was a walk on who played in 5 games and transferred out after 1 season.
--the 20/21 Illini team was not B10 regular season champions, the B10 declared Michigan the B10 champs. I don't think team got rings but I could be wrong.
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