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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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uofi7477
- Silver & Gold Vandals
Yep, home of the Fishbowl before a Card's game.
Dr Copejam
- The Rock
Is Coleman sold on spending time at the 5? I thought that was a point of contention for him.
sacraig
- The desert
Rivers isn't really a new first name, though (example: Rivers Cuomo, age 52). It's just an odd one.
RichardKeenesCousin
Richard Keene's Cousin
hold this thread as I walk away.
PizzaHutParkingLot
- McPherson, KS
sacraig
- The desert
But, but, but... the group chat!
This really surprises me to be honest. Going 7-8 deep is definitely the norm, but based on the 1yr transfers Brad brought in, I find it a bit odd that everyone is/will be on board with it. It's why I figured Brad must have been purposefully constructing his roster with more of a line change 10 deep philosophy in mind albeit that is a rarity in P5 play for sure. If only 3 of Dain, Harmon, Ty, Goode, Hansberry, and Buck are going to see minutes, 1 of them has to be Dain as CoHawk doesn't want to play full games at the 5 (unless Amani somehow shows up just ballin' as a freshman), 1 of them almost has to be Harmon as he's the backup PG (true our starting PG might ideally be tasked with playing a full 40 or maybe Sencire gets some of that role instead, but Harmon seems like the most likely choice in that spot), which leaves 1 spot for Ty, Luke, Sencire, and Amani? That makes me extremely nervous as that 3rd player has to be Ty otherwise what the hell are we doing? But to ice out Sencire and Luke seems really odd to me considering they're straight up glue guys. And not playing Amani at all seems like that'd be a sure transfer out while not playing Dain at all seems like it'd cause a major chemistry issue behind the scenes.
Maybe I'm overthinking, but this has me worried a bit as losing at least 5 players to graduation, then likely losing both freshmen due to playing time, and possibly losing even a Sencire or Luke for being relegated to the bench the entire season? Just seems that if this is Brad's approach it'd be hard not to see this team almost starting over from scratch the following year...
As one final aside, really surprised Ty isn't being a person to beat for one of the starter spots.
sacraig
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Now that’s the kind of leadership I admire
He’s that old? Say it ain’t so.
Is that more or less difficult than if one "pounds sand"? Can one do both? Would you do that before or after you "go jump in a lake"?
I actually agree with much of what you said here. But we need to do a better job of assessing the willingness of guys to fight and earn minutes or to tough it out when they don't get minutes.
So yeah, I suppose it's irrelevant to me as it is to everyone on this board. Just count me among the people that would prefer guys who fight for minutes, as you say, and guys willing to wait and learn, as others said. If we find out that DGL doesn't fit those categories, that's not an "oh well" that's a failure to properly evaluate a kid.
This is why you're my favorite.
ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
I hope we get to see Coleman come back and play a more defined role instead of him playing several significant roles. While it showed his versatility, it also showed his weaknesses. He doesn't get enough credit for all the small things he had to do and take on that shouldn't be in his wheelhouse.
Thats essentially our line up from last year that couldn't shoot. QG and Domask are likely to be starters and came here to provide better shooting and passing. I agree with Piper and Warner that they most likely shall with Hawk at the 5 and when Dain comes in Hawk will be getting a rest with Ty in or Hawk at the 4. Ty can still play 25 plus minutes with his versatility and ability support so many roles. Unfortunately shooting isn't one of them. We just need more efficient shooters on the floor next season. Domask, QG, vet PG, and a healthy Goode provide that. Hopefully 2 of them on the floor most of the time.
Every offseason we think we’re deeper than we are. Someone will get hurt, or someone won’t pan out, etc., etc., etc. Every year we wonder if there’s gonna be enough minutes to go around, and every year we’re seemingly struggling to find 8 guys in February who can consistently score the basketball and aren’t a complete liability on the defensive end of the floor. I think it will be fine.
How much do preseason rankings matter?
Let’s ask an expert.
Coach Davis, what do you think?
You might be being facetious and mocking UNC (deservedly so) but they actually are pretty indicative of March success.
This is an old article, but the data since continues to support it: https://kenpom.com/blog/the-preseason-ap-poll-is-great/
Those are some high standards. Not sure it’s going to happen.. but I do hope you are right.
Question for insiders based on above- do kids accept this as the norm now? Being over recruited in the portal, fluid rosters year to year.
I'm assuming some of this is still shaking out but fundamentally the landscape appears to have shifted; I'd guess everyone has to get onboard one way or another?
The only stretch against Penn State all year the we looked good was when Coleman played like he was an athletic big man and could shoot over everyone on their team. Once that stopped we lost again.
Wish he played like a big who can go do guard things to take advantage of mismatches. That's his peak. Instead of a guard who sometimes realizes he's really tall and can go inside.
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