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[ptgrd23]

I believe his name is Stephen Gentry. We lost him to Gonzaga.

I would vote for someone new. Despite having two All American players Stephen had no answers for Loyola.

Somebody with NBA experience - does not have to be a coach. They have scouts that break down film and design offense and defense plays.

Since they have a new HC in Phoenix maybe Brian Randle could come back for a year as a consultant.

 

[alaskaillini]

Since there are more eyes on this thread, I thought I would put this out there again. The way I read the below, NCAA Division I basketball will be allowed to at 2 more coaches to staff as of July 1. Any thoughts on what Underwood is planning on doing with those spots? Could move Geoff to a non-recruiting position!

NCAA Division I Council modernizes rules for coaching limits​

COACHING LIMITS​

The Council voted to eliminate the voluntary coach designation across Division I, instead including those coaches within a new limit for countable coaches in each of the applicable sports.

By adopting the proposal, the number of countable coaches in baseball, softball and ice hockey increased to four total in each sport. The Council rejected an additional increase to five countable coaches in those sports.

The Council supported an increase of two coaches in men's and women's basketball. These additional coaches may engage in coaching activities but may not recruit off campus. The rules change codified a waiver in those sports that allowed noncoaching staff members to engage in skill instruction.

NCAA Division I Council modernizes rules for coaching limits

The Division I Council took steps to modernize a number of rules Wednesday, including approving adjustments to transfer waiver guidelines, modifying personnel rules across several sports and formally eliminating the requirement for standardized test scores in initial eligibility. The Council met...

www.ncaa.com

Hear Huggins is available.

 

[swa_ticket]

I’m surprised WVU didn’t ask Bruce Weber to be a 1 year caretaker. Bruce seems to do well with other coach’s recruits.

 

[ptgrd23]

WVU Basketball Update 6/22: Search Continues for New Head Coach Amid Rapid Speculation

A haze surrounds the state of West Virginia basketball entering the end of June. Here’s an update through Thursday of what’s going on with the rumored candidates. Update (2:50 p.m.)- One potential stopgap option for the Mountaineers is former WVU head coach John Beilein. The 70-year-old Beilein...

wvsportsnow.com

- unemployed - Beilein and Mack - page 3 link

West Virginia Basketball: Pros and cons of reported head coaching candidates

In the past few days, there have been around eight names thrown around for the West Virginia Basketball head coaching job. Which of them makes sense?

bustingbrackets.com

Kelsey (college of charleston) and May (FAU final four) - page 4 link

West Virginia Basketball: Pros and cons of reported head coaching candidates

In the past few days, there have been around eight names thrown around for the West Virginia Basketball head coaching job. Which of them makes sense?

bustingbrackets.com

 

[the national]

This may have already been posted. But might impact who leaves their program.

 

[BashCtIllini]

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This may have already been posted. But might impact who leaves their program.

this is the right move. No way you will even have a chance at the caliber of coach you want if you're hiring at the end of June.

 

[Navy_illini]

I have read a lot of posts about BU hot seat. I think he is a good coach and there are a handful of coaches better than him and most of those coaches are at equal or better programs

From a history perspective Henson is the gold standard that is looked at for program success. Just looking from 80-81 to 90-91 it took him 3 NCAA appearances to win more than 1 game in the tournament. Note there was 1 NIT appearance and the 80-81 season we were a 4 seed who beat a 5 seed and lost to an 8 seed

Then he had an elite 8 and S16 followed by 3 years of first weekend exits and a final four followed by a first round exit

Also in that timeframe one conference championship but team was always in the top half

With all that said we as a program should be satisfied with a coach who can consistently make the NCAA tournament, be in contention for the conference title, and occasionally do well in the tournament

BU has done that expect tournament success. I give him a slight pass on that area for 2 reasons. 1 his best team did not get an opportunity to play. 2 his teams have struggled with injuries at the end of the season Ayo concussion Trent pink eye Grandison shoulder

His seat should be lukewarm and that is not because of team performance rather his interest possibly wanting to go somewhere else after this season

 

[skyIdub]

Hear Huggins is available.

 

[DReq]

I have read a lot of posts about BU hot seat. I think he is a good coach and there are a handful of coaches better than him and most of those coaches are at equal or better programs

From a history perspective Henson is the gold standard that is looked at for program success. Just looking from 80-81 to 90-91 it took him 3 NCAA appearances to win more than 1 game in the tournament. Note there was 1 NIT appearance and the 80-81 season we were a 4 seed who beat a 5 seed and lost to an 8 seed

Then he had an elite 8 and S16 followed by 3 years of first weekend exits and a final four followed by a first round exit

Also in that timeframe one conference championship but team was always in the top half

With all that said we as a program should be satisfied with a coach who can consistently make the NCAA tournament, be in contention for the conference title, and occasionally do well in the tournament

BU has done that expect tournament success. I give him a slight pass on that area for 2 reasons. 1 his best team did not get an opportunity to play. 2 his teams have struggled with injuries at the end of the season Ayo concussion Trent pink eye Grandison shoulder

His seat should be lukewarm and that is not because of team performance rather his interest possibly wanting to go somewhere else after this season

I have to agree that it is ideal to have a coach who stays for a long term with success. It seems that the "blue bloods" have historically enjoyed a long term relationship with a successful coach upon which they at least joined the club of special programs. What I have to take issue with is the bolded portion of your post. My problem is with the position that a coach should be on the "lukewarm" seat because he (or his agent) has expressed some interest in another position. If we limit our coach candidates to those who have no further goals but to come here to coach we will become a backwater of coaching that will never reach the excellence we all believe we deserve. I want to see all coaches evaluated by results - reasonable and incrementally attainable - and not fired for having lofty goals. Having said that I also believe that an AD has to maintain some list of potential next coach candidates all the time so if/when a coach jumps to another position there is an immediate and swift replacement ready to step in. I hope we don't need that but the AD's job isn't to hope but to prepare. Too long, I know, and not critical of your post generally but I just differ in that one way.

 

[ptgrd23]

You can explore options without pissing of your employer. You just have to be discrete and professional.

If Brad says he loves it at Illinois but he listens when people call or he always directs them to his agent that fine.

Now actively sending out resumes, posting "open to new opportunities on social media", or in a coaches case - reaching out to AD/recruiter who is search for new basketball coach. Is not being discrete or professional so a company or university should feel free to replace you if they have better option.

 

[band camp]

Perfection dub.

...still laughing.

 

[ptgrd23]

Most attractive coaches. Younger. Recent success at new opportunity. No NCAA issues.

- Tommy Lloyd AZ
- Musselman AR
- Cronin UCLA
- Oates AL
- Jerome Tang (only 1 season record)
- Shrewsbury (just jumped to ND)

probably not moving
- Few Gonzaga
- Drew Baylor
- Altman OR
- Sampson Houston

Getting ready to retire
- Izzo MSU
- Self Kansas
- Sampson Houston

 

[illini0440]

Most attractive coaches. Younger. Recent success at new opportunity. No NCAA issues.

- Tommy Lloyd AZ
- Musselman AR
- Cronin UCLA
- Oates AL
- Jerome Tang (only 1 season record)
- Shrewsbury (just jumped to ND)

probably not moving
- Few Gonzaga
- Drew Baylor
- Altman OR
- Sampson Houston

Getting ready to retire
- Izzo MSU
- Self Kansas
- Sampson Houston

Dude Muss is 58 and Altman was very unhappy at Oregon last year. Publicly stated so

 

[BashCtIllini]

Most attractive coaches. Younger. Recent success at new opportunity. No NCAA issues.

- Tommy Lloyd AZ
- Musselman AR
- Cronin UCLA
- Oates AL
- Jerome Tang (only 1 season record)
- Shrewsbury (just jumped to ND)

probably not moving
- Few Gonzaga
- Drew Baylor
- Altman OR
- Sampson Houston

Getting ready to retire
- Izzo MSU
- Self Kansas
- Sampson Houston

I don't find any of these guys attractive.

 

[Q Baller]

Most attractive coaches. Younger. Recent success at new opportunity. No NCAA issues.

- Tommy Lloyd AZ
- Musselman AR
- Cronin UCLA
- Oates AL
- Jerome Tang (only 1 season record)
- Shrewsbury (just jumped to ND)

probably not moving
- Few Gonzaga
- Drew Baylor
- Altman OR
- Sampson Houston

Getting ready to retire
- Izzo MSU
- Self Kansas
- Sampson Houston

Would be surprised to see Tommy Lloyd go anywhere, Tucson is paradise September through May, Biggish city with no pro sports (Arizona Bball biggest show in town), they have the money to pay him, and generally can get solid California players easily (Want to go away to school, but don't want to go too far).

 

[Navy_illini]

Most attractive coaches. Younger. Recent success at new opportunity. No NCAA issues.

- Tommy Lloyd AZ
- Musselman AR
- Cronin UCLA
- Oates AL
- Jerome Tang (only 1 season record)
- Shrewsbury (just jumped to ND)

probably not moving
- Few Gonzaga
- Drew Baylor
- Altman OR
- Sampson Houston

Getting ready to retire
- Izzo MSU
- Self Kansas
- Sampson Houston

Do you think Valentine gets a chance to replace Izzo

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2022/10/25/top-mid-major-basketball-coaches-hires

 

[Indy Illini Fan]

Most attractive coaches. Younger. Recent success at new opportunity. No NCAA issues.

- Tommy Lloyd AZ
- Musselman AR
- Cronin UCLA
- Oates AL
- Jerome Tang (only 1 season record)
- Shrewsbury (just jumped to ND)

probably not moving
- Few Gonzaga
- Drew Baylor
- Altman OR
- Sampson Houston

Getting ready to retire
- Izzo MSU
- Self Kansas
- Sampson Houston

The only guys on this list we would go after with a chance of getting are Muss, Altman and Tang …

Sean Miller should be added to the list of potential candidates … Greg McDermott should also be added to the list …

In my opinion … If you can’t get Miller, Tang or Muss … It isn’t worth making a move …

 

[grue2]

Would be surprised to see Tommy Lloyd go anywhere, Tucson is paradise September through May, Biggish city with no pro sports (Arizona Bball biggest show in town), they have the money to pay him, and generally can get solid California players easily (Want to go away to school, but don't want to go too far).

That seems a bit optimistic on the paradise.
5 months great (not 9 IMO): Nov-March.
2 months okay if you like the mid-80s: October, April
5 months best experienced remotely: May-Sept

 

[WyattEarp]

The only guys on this list we would go after with a chance of getting are Muss, Altman and Tang …

Sean Miller should be added to the list of potential candidates … Greg McDermott should also be added to the list …

In my opinion … If you can’t get Miller, Tang or Muss … It isn’t worth making a move …

He got out for a reason, of course.AND I’m sure there isn’t a snowball’s change in hell…but I wonder what the odds of Jay Wright to Champaign would be. (That would be amazing!!)

I hear his name rumored in Pro searches here and there at least. Is there a chance he
gets tired of the media gig in a year and a half…and starts missing college hoops? How about Insiders…
I think I probably know the answer. But should I let the dream die?

Edit: I do like Altman. I still do. I would of liked him better 5-10 years ago but he’s damn good IMO.

 

[Q Baller]

That seems a bit optimistic on the paradise.
5 months great (not 9 IMO): Nov-March.
2 months okay if you like the mid-80s: October, April
5 months best experienced remotely: May-Sept

I personally like the mid 80's and up to 90ish in the desert when I visit so I'll give you May 15th through Sept 15th not great.

 

[GrayGhost77]

That seems a bit optimistic on the paradise.
5 months great (not 9 IMO): Nov-March.
2 months okay if you like the mid-80s: October, April
5 months best experienced remotely: May-Sept

Having lived in AZ for 9 years, this is accurate.

 

[ptgrd23]

The only guys on this list we would go after with a chance of getting are Muss, Altman and Tang …

Sean Miller should be added to the list of potential candidates … Greg McDermott should also be added to the list …

In my opinion … If you can’t get Miller, Tang or Muss … It isn’t worth making a move …

Sean crashed and burned at AZ and got caught on FBI tape. Not hireable. There is a reason Sampson is still stuck at Houston.
McDermott has been at Creighton for 13 years. JMO If he wanted to move to P5 he would have gone a long time ago. He is hot after making elite 8 and is 58.

Porter Moser is 19-16 and 15-17 at Oklahoma. Kruger made NCAA 7 of 9 preceding years including last 3 so Porter did not inherit a wreck. Have to be careful about hiring a coach after a good tournament run. See John Groce

Shaka Smart appears to have rehabilitated himself at Marquette. I wonder if he will try to make the leap to top 10 program again or be happy in Big East like he was at VCU.

Chrissy at NW is coming off his 2nd NCAA bid. I am sure he wished it had come 2 years sooner so he had a shot at the Duke job. I am surprised ND did not go after him. Maybe he makes too much money.

 

[WhiteHorseWings]

He got out for a reason, of course.AND I’m sure there isn’t a snowball’s change in hell…but I wonder what the odds of Jay Wright to Champaign would be. (That would be amazing!!)

I hear his name rumored in Pro searches here and there at least. Is there a chance he
gets tired of the media gig in a year and a half…and starts missing college hoops? How about Insiders…
I think I probably know the answer. But should I let the dream die?

Edit: I do like Altman. I still do. I would of liked him better 5-10 years ago but he’s damn good IMO.

Bought K’s Mahomet land

 

[Illini 993]

Sean crashed and burned at AZ and got caught on FBI tape. Not hireable. There is a reason Sampson is still stuck at Houston.
McDermott has been at Creighton for 13 years. JMO If he wanted to move to P5 he would have gone a long time ago. He is hot after making elite 8 and is 58.

Porter Moser is 19-16 and 15-17 at Oklahoma. Kruger made NCAA 7 of 9 preceding years including last 3 so Porter did not inherit a wreck. Have to be careful about hiring a coach after a good tournament run. See John Groce

Shaka Smart appears to have rehabilitated himself at Marquette. I wonder if he will try to make the leap to top 10 program again or be happy in Big East like he was at VCU.

Chrissy at NW is coming off his 2nd NCAA bid. I am sure he wished it had come 2 years sooner so he had a shot at the Duke job. I am surprised ND did not go after him. Maybe he makes too much money.

Miller is "not hirable"?! What charges were brought against him? I assume you know that SFAU had to forfeit a lot of games, and Oklahoma State faced a postseason ban for BU's time at those schools? Now with the Illini, BU was and is hireable. And no, I'm not wishing for Miller, nor anyone else, unless BU has a bad season.
On another note to the insiders (or anyone that knows): Is Kevin Boyle ever mentioned as a coaching hire anywhere (not the Illini)? He has been so good coaching high school in New Jersey, and now at Montverde, that I would think he'd get a shot.

 

[Illini in Italy]

Miller is "not hirable"?! What charges were brought against him? I assume you know that SFAU had to forfeit a lot of games, and Oklahoma State faced a postseason ban for BU's time at those schools? Now with the Illini, BU was and is hireable. And no, I'm not wishing for Miller, nor anyone else, unless BU has a bad season.
On another note to the insiders (or anyone that knows): Is Kevin Boyle ever mentioned as a coaching hire anywhere (not the Illini)? He has been so good coaching high school in New Jersey, and now at Montverde, that I would think he'd get a shot.

I get a kick out of this . . ."if he has a bad season" . . .
every coach in history has had a bad season at one point (and for some, many points) in their career. Today's "win today or you are out tomorrow" mindset wil, prevent 20 and 30 year coaching tenures from ever occurring. See

Krzyzewski, Mike
Wooden, John
Smith, Dean
Olson, Lute
Williams, Roy
Rump, Adolph

many more - they all had long tenures in their career, and had a bad season or seasons along the way.