mattcoldagelli
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Just venting now. But rhetorically, can I ask why it seems like the Bears always wind up with coaches/front offices who refuse to budge of their principles, regardless of the strengths of the players?
Nagy insisted on using Fields in a quick throw scheme which is the exact opposite of his skill set. And it almost felt like it was done to spite GM Pace.
Eberflus’ whole scheme is predicated on getting pressure with his front 4. We didn’t appear to have the personnel to do that last year. So in the off-season Poles signs…2 linebackers. We don’t appear to have the personnel to get consistently get pressure with our front 4. One sack through 2 games. So why doesn’t Eberflus blitz more?
And Fields certainly isn’t without blame at this point, but so far Getsy is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole in making Fields a pocket passer. I understand maybe it’s not sustainable to run fields like they did last year, but why not at least mix in some boots and designed runs and make the defense have to make a decision. Keeping Fields in the pocket is the biggest favor you can do for the opposing defense IMO.
Are other teams front offices/coaching staffs also wedded to their principles like this? I don’t follow NFL closely beyond the Bears so don’t know. I get you want to have principles. But you also have to win football games. And sticking to principles in the face of deficient personnel just strikes me as dumb and a recipe for losing and getting fired.
Nagy insisted on using Fields in a quick throw scheme which is the exact opposite of his skill set. And it almost felt like it was done to spite GM Pace.
Eberflus’ whole scheme is predicated on getting pressure with his front 4. We didn’t appear to have the personnel to do that last year. So in the off-season Poles signs…2 linebackers. We don’t appear to have the personnel to get consistently get pressure with our front 4. One sack through 2 games. So why doesn’t Eberflus blitz more?
And Fields certainly isn’t without blame at this point, but so far Getsy is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole in making Fields a pocket passer. I understand maybe it’s not sustainable to run fields like they did last year, but why not at least mix in some boots and designed runs and make the defense have to make a decision. Keeping Fields in the pocket is the biggest favor you can do for the opposing defense IMO.
Are other teams front offices/coaching staffs also wedded to their principles like this? I don’t follow NFL closely beyond the Bears so don’t know. I get you want to have principles. But you also have to win football games. And sticking to principles in the face of deficient personnel just strikes me as dumb and a recipe for losing and getting fired.
While it's not sustainable, he's not going to have a career if they keep using him the way they have. It's not as though sitting in the pocket has kept him from taking hits. He might as well get hit past the line of scrimmage, rather than 7-10 yards behind it.
I'm not sure what this team does well... Kick FGs?
mattcoldagelli
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The short answer to all of this is that they are a terrible organization from top-to-bottom. The people they are bringing in don't matter, because an inept operation lowers everyone's ceiling.
Denver played Wash this past week and are now 0-2.This "Hall of Mediocrity" suggests that average tenure as a Bears quarterback is approximately 3 seasons
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So one might reasonablt expect this to be Fields final season with the Bears.
The Bears have opened as 13-point road underdogs against the Chiefs.
Next up are the Broncos and Commanders who are both 2 and 0. and may be stronger teams than expected.
The NFL has had many ‘Quarterbacks’ over the years that were never real QBs but who thought they were. They were actually (decent) running backs who posed as QBs and took QB snaps. While in College they could get away with this kind of performance. But once they got to the Bigs they exposed themselves as running backs trying to play QB.
Guys who run The Option are often demonstrating that they just don’t want to be pocket QBs or work from the relative safety of The Pocket. Most every Option QB gets himself racked up and injured at some point. It is usually not a long-term career with very few exceptions.
And why does franchise management go too long making excuses for their RB/QB? They don’t want to admit they made a draft mistake. But because the NFL is big business... and fans do not tolerate poor QB performance for very long... at some point Management has to admit their mistake and make changes.
Fields seems like a nice guy. He does have ball talent. But if he were a true NFL quarterback he would have shown that by now. Find another place for him on the field and let everyone adjust their expectations. He's not the first guy who took snaps whose real field position was really somewhere else.
Maybe Bears fans will live long enough to see a storied franchise get a real quarterback since... Blanda? McMahon?
It looks like the Bears and White Sox and (for many years) the Blackhawks and Bulls and Cubs all took Management courses from the same ‘Mail-in-and-get a-diploma!’ business school run by defrocked and fired Business Majors.
The City of Chicago has largely been cursed by underperforming sports franchises for generations because Chicago sports franchises have had mostly bad ownerships and the resulting poor management groups.
Chicago fans have become accustomed to being frustrated and expecting sports failure. We have deserved much, much better than what we’ve been getting.
TentakilRex
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This season is getting worse for y'all Bears fans, way worse, internet rumors saying Penn State bad
Hope the rumors are unfounded, but be prepared if they are not.
Hope the rumors are unfounded, but be prepared if they are not.
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The Bears’ front office organizational chart looks like a big, tangled up ball of yarn, and this has been true since at least the 70s.
It’s not an uncommon thing for a small family company that grows too quickly to adjust to the reality of the size of the business. The Bears are a multi-billion dollar company that’s still run by the 100-year-old daughter of the founder and her kids. It’s not the small town factory team any more, but they haven’t put together a corporate infrastructure commensurate with the scale of the business.
Nobody has any accountability. They never seem to be on the same page. The GM, HC, coordinators and QB are always brought in at different times, and it’s often not clear who’s answerable to whom.
Just most recently, they hired a new team President only after hiring their new GM and HC. Is the GM accountable to the new President, or to the owner’s son who hired him? And that’s just the most recent example, but you can find issues like that over and over again going all the way back to the infighting between the old Halas-era holdovers and the people that came over from Minnesota with Finks in the mid-70s.
Illiniaaron
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I only skimmed the article, but two things that stood out to me was Kmet and Mooney running the wrong routes, which seems inexcusable at this stage of their careers, and Kyler Gordon being a liability-I thought he was playing better than that. That's a no gouda.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
Coaching arrogance.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
I wish I could hit like more than once.
TentakilRex
- Land O Insects between Quincy-Macomb-Jacksonville
Is Matt Eberflus the Tim Beckman of the Bears? I will hang up and listen…
TentakilRex
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Might be wrong about Halas Hall, sorryThis season is getting worse for y'all Bears fans, way worse, internet rumors saying Penn State bad
Or letting Pace burn future draft capital to draft fields when his seat was boiling hot.
And I’m going off of memory here a bit but the timeline is more or less accurate, but hiring Poles on a Monday, giving him a list of 3 HC finalists, and expecting him to interview each one and make a decision I think it was by Thursday. So does the HC fear and respect the GM when the HC was basically hand picked by ownership?You’re right it’s a complete mess.
Looking more and more like Poles will jettison Fields after this year aftergiving him almost no support and he will serve the McCaskeys and everyone else a big, steaming pile of “not my guy.” He will draft a new quarterback but his results have been so putrid he will probably have to change HCs and his own seat will likely be warm. He will probably get fired before the new QB gets through his rookie deal and will start this whole process over again.
In the 4th biggest Bears story of the day, they released their #2 qb, making an undrafted rookie Division II qb the only other qb on their roster.
What could possibly go wrong?
What could possibly go wrong?
Good football teams make most of their news ON the field. Bad football teams make most of their news OFF it.
Can Chicago get the Cardinals back? Sure, they're not good right now. But Chicagoland needs something to watch on Sundays. And they might be good one day.
Honestly, they only lost depth.
Bagent taking over Tank Commander duties. Although Fields seems plenty capable of that too.
As for the events that unfolded today:
Bears fans: Nothing will ever be as god awful as the Trestman years
2023 Bears: Hold my beer
Bears fans: Nothing will ever be as god awful as the Trestman years
2023 Bears: Hold my beer
Yeah, unless it's from someone who is a legit and reputable NFL reporter, don't believe most of what is tweeted out there. I had legit never heard of the guy you posted the tweet of before.
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