I won’t even wait for Friday.I can’t wait for all of your over reactions on Friday night!
Ty Rodgers is a combination of Frank and Deron out there! Put him in the league now!
I won’t even wait for Friday.I can’t wait for all of your over reactions on Friday night!
What about if he has an average game?!I won’t even wait for Friday.
Ty Rodgers is a combination of Frank and Deron out there! Put him in the league now!
Jordan didn’t put up 650 every game, I’m a reasonable man I don’t expect the same from Rodgers.What about if he has an average game?!
I think that would be better than what we got from a couple guards I could name the later part of last seasonWhat about if he has an average game?!
With an Ottawa enrollment of less than 400 men, every male on campus who can fog a mirror, dribble using both hands, or chuck one up underhand that hits the rim or backboard should be suited up and ready to play.
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With the difficulty of our schedule and the new parts, I don't think this is a given and I don't believe that if we didn't make the tourney it should necessarily result in a pink slip. It would mean that the next offseason and recruiting cycle though would likely be considered make or break. While I certainly hope for a nice seed and some great play this year, I foresee some struggles and I think it's probably more likely we'll be an 8/9 or bubble team than a 5 seed or better at this point. Hoping you're right though.If we get NIT, he should just be fired. This team is way too talented for lower than a 6th seed.
With the difficulty of our schedule and the new parts, I don't think this is a given and I don't believe that if we didn't make the tourney it should necessarily result in a pink slip. It would mean that the next offseason and recruiting cycle though would likely be considered make or break. While I certainly hope for a nice seed and some great play this year, I foresee some struggles and I think it's probably more likely we'll be an 8/9 or bubble team than a 5 seed or better at this point. Hoping you're right though.
if we aren’t playing in the second weekend Brad is likely gone. There’s 2 scenarios and it’s we end up a top 6 seed & exit the tournament early or we have a bad seed and exit early. Both are bad for Brad. It’s sweet 16 or bust with the amount of depth, experience on this roster. Sorry if that’s harsh.With the difficulty of our schedule and the new parts, I don't think this is a given and I don't believe that if we didn't make the tourney it should necessarily result in a pink slip. It would mean that the next offseason and recruiting cycle though would likely be considered make or break. While I certainly hope for a nice seed and some great play this year, I foresee some struggles and I think it's probably more likely we'll be an 8/9 or bubble team than a 5 seed or better at this point. Hoping you're right though.
If we make the tourney, I doubt Brad gets fired, regardless of result.if we aren’t playing in the second weekend Brad is likely gone. There’s 2 scenarios and it’s we end up a top 6 seed & exit the tournament early or we have a bad seed and exit early. Both are bad for Brad. It’s sweet 16 or bust with the amount of depth, experience on this roster. Sorry if that’s harsh.
Given the depth & experience we have on the roster.. and the way the off season went… don’t think Brad gets off the hook this time…If we make the tourney, I doubt Brad gets fired, regardless of result.
But next year would likely be a S16 or bust year.
Not harsh, but I think it may be asking a lot with this team. I think much will depend on how quickly we can get our defense up to an elite level and if we can limit the turnovers. I believe movement off the ball, turnovers and shooting are still question marks that I need to see answered before I can say this is a 2nd weekend team. A very strong defense can take us far, as can offensive rebounding, but I think turnovers, stagnant offense, and shooting might be a sticking point for this group.if we aren’t playing in the second weekend Brad is likely gone. There’s 2 scenarios and it’s we end up a top 6 seed & exit the tournament early or we have a bad seed and exit early. Both are bad for Brad. It’s sweet 16 or bust with the amount of depth, experience on this roster. Sorry if that’s harsh.
I understand your point. A new roster takes time to build chemistry and figure eachother out… I get it. There’s a reason teams that stick together win, look no further than MSU & Purdue. Lots of vets with time played together…Not harsh, but I think it may be asking a lot with this team. I think much will depend on how quickly we can get our defense up to an elite level and if we can limit the turnovers. I believe movement off the ball, turnovers and shooting are still question marks that I need to see answered before I can say this is a 2nd weekend team. A very strong defense can take us far, as can offensive rebounding, but I think turnovers, stagnant offense, and shooting might be a sticking point for this group.
While this could certainly develop into a Sweet 16 team, I think this team still has significant gaps from last season that are going to take some time to work out. Optimistically this happens quickly, but I can understand if it's a longer process. So I'm not quite onboard with the Sweet 16 or bust group yet, but I would be absolutely thrilled if I start getting that feeling in the coming weeks
if we aren’t playing in the second weekend Brad is likely gone. There’s 2 scenarios and it’s we end up a top 6 seed & exit the tournament early or we have a bad seed and exit early. Both are bad for Brad. It’s sweet 16 or bust with the amount of depth, experience on this roster. Sorry if that’s harsh.
So you’re saying that Brad Underwood, who is the most winningest coach in the B1G over the past 4 seasons, will be fired this year, even if he makes the tournament, for underperforming in said tournament?Given the depth & experience we have on the roster.. and the way the off season went… don’t think Brad gets off the hook this time…
Yes.So you’re saying that Brad Underwood, who is the most winningest coach in the B1G over the past 4 seasons, will be fired this year, even if he makes the tournament, for underperforming in said tournament?
It's not that it's harsh, it's just that there is no way that's a possibilityif we aren’t playing in the second weekend Brad is likely gone. There’s 2 scenarios and it’s we end up a top 6 seed & exit the tournament early or we have a bad seed and exit early. Both are bad for Brad. It’s sweet 16 or bust with the amount of depth, experience on this roster. Sorry if that’s harsh.
Ottawa's free throw defense is always strong so I wouldn't put much stock in a bad percentage.Of course and Just gonna add that at some point in the first few xbition games ....people will have anxiety over missed FT's
.I'm sorry but there's a lot of variables that could keep the Illini from reaching the 2nd weekend of the tourney....we could get a terrible match up if the seeding doesn't play out in our favor....injuries or illness....could lose a key player or two during conf. tourney and enter the nc2a short handed.....I get where you're coming from....we should be a sweet 16 team come tourney time and I will be disappointed if we're not...but I think JW and others would take into consideration if certain variables that are out of the coaching staffs control before saying we didn't reach the 2nd weekend of the tourney....pack your bags your gone. just saying that's a possibilityYes.
Just don’t see this. Gone from last year are Mayer, Epps, and Melendez. Added experience are Q, Justin, Marcus, and Luke. A year of experience for Ty, Sincere, and Dain. New faces in Dra, Nic, and Amani. No way this isn’t a better roster than last year. Also no way PG position isn’t stronger. Justin would be better than anyone playing PG last year and he will probably have at least two guys ahead of him. Chemistry will determine the ceiling but the roster is stronger.Not harsh, but I think it may be asking a lot with this team. I think much will depend on how quickly we can get our defense up to an elite level and if we can limit the turnovers. I believe movement off the ball, turnovers and shooting are still question marks that I need to see answered before I can say this is a 2nd weekend team. A very strong defense can take us far, as can offensive rebounding, but I think turnovers, stagnant offense, and shooting might be a sticking point for this group.
While this could certainly develop into a Sweet 16 team, I think this team still has significant gaps from last season that are going to take some time to work out. Optimistically this happens quickly, but I can understand if it's a longer process. So I'm not quite onboard with the Sweet 16 or bust group yet, but I would be absolutely thrilled if I start getting that feeling in the coming weeks
Well if we have injuries, sure, he is safe for sure.. I don’t retract my stance, however. To each their own… this year is really important for Brad, and this team is good enough to be a top 10-15 team with expectations to make a run imo. If this year goes anything like last year and our problems are still locker room related, or we have a bunch of roster shake up during the year that’s not injury related… I think Brad needs to go..I'm sorry but there's a lot of variables that could keep the Illini from reaching the 2nd weekend of the tourney....we could get a terrible match up if the seeding doesn't play out in our favor....injuries or illness....could lose a key player or two during conf. tourney and enter the nc2a short handed.....I get where you're coming from....we should be a sweet 16 team come tourney time and I will be disappointed if we're not...but I think JW and others would take into consideration if certain variables that are out of the coaching staffs control before saying we didn't reach the 2nd weekend of the tourney....pack your bags your gone. just saying that's a possibility
Pretty much anyone of significance on this team won't be here next year, so it will be Goode, Dain, Ty, a good recruiting class and a whole mess of other guys. I hate the lack of continuity, and I wish Brad had enough warmth left in his seat to have a down year to build a young core.Given the depth & experience we have on the roster.. and the way the off season went… don’t think Brad gets off the hook this time…
Apparently you didn't listen to Brad's boss who said NCAA tournament results are not a criteria he uses for success or failure.if we aren’t playing in the second weekend Brad is likely gone. There’s 2 scenarios and it’s we end up a top 6 seed & exit the tournament early or we have a bad seed and exit early. Both are bad for Brad. It’s sweet 16 or bust with the amount of depth, experience on this roster. Sorry if that’s harsh.
Pretty much anyone of significance on this team won't be here next year, so it will be Goode, Dain, Ty, a good recruiting class and a whole mess of other guys. I hate the lack of continuity, and I wish Brad had enough warmth left in his seat to have a down year to build a young core.
After the TJ fart sound, Sky leaving mid-season, a bunch of other dudes leaving after the season, missing RayJ, pivoting to an unproven sophomore PF as PG, Brad better make it work this year. It's his team with no excuses. He was given everything he wanted and couldn't get the position we truly needed. If this year doesn't go well, he's gonna be in trouble.
I believe we go top 5 in B1G, 6 seed in tournament.