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skyIdub
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Would Sean leave XU for either of these? Would either scUM or MSU even call?
skyIdub
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Huh?
Look, when it came to the Connor Stalions thing, I thought everyone was getting all bent out of shape over relatively piddly stuff. Still think that way. Juwan Howard is a whole other thing. The guy's a hothead. If he gets canned, no great loss.
Would Shaka be on someones short list?????
Shaka tried the bigger school thing....think he is happy at Marquette. He is also kind of an oddball so a place like Marquette is a good fit.
Spent some time this weekend with Sean ... They are really happy in their new house ... Xavier's facilities are INSANE ... Probably top 10 on my list and I have nearly seen them all ...
Xavier is paying him quite a bit ... I won't say how much but it would take a top 25 type of program to get him away ... He has Adam Cohen for now but if he leaves, that could change how interested Sean is in other jobs ...
He named 5 jobs in one of our conversations that would interest him heavily ... Michigan State, Kansas, Illinois, Tennessee, and Kentucky ... A couple more that he might take a phone call from would be Michigan, Oregon, Miami, Gonzaga, and Baylor ...
Michigan would interest him but I think he would probably stay at Xavier over Michigan just because of the kind of kids Sean likes to recruit ... They would not get in at Michigan ... Xavier has graduated every kid that has stayed at Xavier for at least 4 years ... Hasn't mattered who they brought in ... The amount of help those kids get at Xavier is unreal ... You have to actively try not to graduate to walk out of there without a diploma ...
Would those same type of kids get in at Illinois though? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Illinois is tougher to get into than Michigan, right?
As always, thanks for any info!
Nope. Which is why we have TSJ right now and Michigan has Fight Club.
Edit: For clarity's sake, TSJ was going to go to Michigan but couldn't clear admissions.
Edit 2: Transfer admissions is a little bit different than freshman admissions, but I still think Michigan is a little more difficult than Illinois wrt admissions.
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Right on target. Hope you dont get any kick back from this comment because you are killing it! If you do, tell them to suppress it. Bullseye!Michigan saw how Oats handled the Brandon Miller situation and were like
You're right, I did forget about that. Whew, thankfully! lol.
I would think the last person you want to beef with is the S&C coach...
Though not a perfect representation of admission difficulty, Michigan has a 22% acceptance rate and Illinois has a 60% acceptance rate.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Snagged some data below FWIW. If it's credible, the Top 25% at Illinois aren't far off Michigan but in general UM is much more competitive, both on SAT scores and the fact that it has a very strong national brand so heavy nos. of applications and low admission rate.
I do know the figures on the engineering programs, because I checked them a couple years ago when my daughter was looking at schools. They're indistinguishable in terms of student scores. I know two kids of friends in the past five yrs who got dinged by both Illinois and Michigan engineering and computer science programs but got into Purdue. (And attended and loved it.)
I'm so over the college admissions game. Glad it worked out well and I'll never again deal with it.
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From The UIUC Site, the total 2023 numbers:
Total Admit Rate is 43.7%
College of Agricultural, Consumer & Environmental Sciences: 56.5%
Division of General Studies: 53.2%
College of Fine & Applied Arts: 49.3%
College of Applied Health Sciences:35.8%
College of Education: 46.8%
College of Liberal Arts & Sciences: 45.5%
College of Media: 43.7%
School of Social Work: 37.4%
Gies College of Business: 24.2%
Grainger College of Engineering: 22.3%
School of Information Sciences: 21.6%
Computer Science: 7.5%
Total Admit Rate is 43.7%
College of Agricultural, Consumer & Environmental Sciences: 56.5%
Division of General Studies: 53.2%
College of Fine & Applied Arts: 49.3%
College of Applied Health Sciences:35.8%
College of Education: 46.8%
College of Liberal Arts & Sciences: 45.5%
College of Media: 43.7%
School of Social Work: 37.4%
Gies College of Business: 24.2%
Grainger College of Engineering: 22.3%
School of Information Sciences: 21.6%
Computer Science: 7.5%
Bigtex
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This is college athletics - shouldn't that be the normal?
Bigtex
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I would rather they give him a lifetime contract.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Side note, but as someone who attended a big state school for college and got my MBA at a smaller private school, there really is no comparing those types of schools on a fair basis. State schools have like this weird social contract with you where in turn for getting the recognition/status that comes with that diploma (i.e., they are all usually ranked higher than smaller private schools on average, with exceptions for the elite private ones), you are left to fend for yourself, lol. Granted it was for an MBA program and not undergrad, but the support I received at a private school was just in another stratosphere. Even if I wanted to compare strictly undergrad, my sister went to Butler and our college experiences could not have been more different ... two different universes. That is why I think it's funny when someone who went to a private school acts like they got this superior education strictly because it's private OR someone who went to a public school acts superior because their alma mater always ranks higher in things like US News. They're just not comparable, haha.
Anyway, that list is very interesting but not surprising. I feel like if I were a coach like Miller, my list would look similar, and one of the most interesting things to navigate (IMO) would be balancing a school/fan base that is passionate about hoops (e.g., it would kind of suck to be at Ohio State where even their good teams are getting crappy fan support) vs. a school whose expectations are just ridiculous and unrealistic (e.g., Indiana fans unreasonably expect Kansas-esque results and will run you out of town, even though in our modern era no recruit has grown up thinking of IU that way outside of small town Indiana). Personally, this would be my short list if I were some elite coach based on what I understand about the potential, location/recruiting, facilities, money/NIL, fan support, etc.:
- Illinois
- Kansas
- Texas
- Tennessee
- Wisconsin
- Arizona
- Florida
- Villanova
- Oregon
- Miami (FL)
"Great jobs" that I personally wouldn't take include the following...
- Indiana ... Like I said, insane fans. No thanks.
- Maryland ... Historical success similar to Illinois (or even worse depending on the metric), yet it seems their fans are nastier and more entitled.
- Ohio State/Michigan ... I personally think it would be annoying always being second fiddle.
- Michigan State/Duke ... No thanks to following the only coach anyone alive has ever seen have ridiculous success there.
- UCLA ... It literally seems like they have the worst possible combination of fan apathy and yet intense fan expectations, haha.
- Syracuse ... Similar to MSU/Duke with replacing a legend, but I also just think the Carrier Dome is perhaps the ugliest and most overrated arena in the nation, haha.
Jobs that people probably think are good but I maintain are an absolute trap include...
- Purdue ... I will die on this hill, but the success coaches have had at Purdue speaks to their incredible skill, not the job's ceiling. Second fiddle in a medium size state. Also, apparently their NIL is bad.
- Texas A&M ... Should be a sleeping giant, but you'd get the toxic combination of crazy donors AND playing second fiddle.
And lastly some jobs that I probably wouldn't take but are like Illini football in that there is just literally no reason they should be this bad ... and someone will come along to change that within 20 years:
- Georgia ... You heard it here first, Georgia basketball will realize its potential within two decades. They should be at least Tournament level every year based on resources.
- Missouri ... Pains me to say it, but they seem to have a relatively rare combination of good instate recruiting/population AND pretty good instate loyalty to Mizzou.
- Rutgers ... I am sorry, but it is true! The right recruiter at Rutgers can get it going.
… and now the “rumor” is out in the open.
JuGawn?
JuGawn?
I had open heart surgery earlier this year on March 31st. For 6 weeks afterwards I had strict sternal precautions limiting my movements and weights carried. For the 6 weeks following that, it said "Do not do any activities that can stress your sternum. This includes swimming, running, bowling, skiing, golf, tennis, horseback riding, and softball."
Juwan Howard had open heart surgery on September 15th of this year. Juwan would have very similar sternal restrictions to ensure his chest healed correctly. If you add 12 weeks to September 15th that takes us to December 8th. My only take is that it doesn't sound like Juwan fully followed his sternal precautions and his cardiologist may not be happy with him.
Juwan Howard had open heart surgery on September 15th of this year. Juwan would have very similar sternal restrictions to ensure his chest healed correctly. If you add 12 weeks to September 15th that takes us to December 8th. My only take is that it doesn't sound like Juwan fully followed his sternal precautions and his cardiologist may not be happy with him.
A true Michigan man.
Maybe the S&C coach should have given him a heart punch!
(humor from another bypass patient).
Glad you're still with us!
But did he say anything about slapping, backhanding, or punching?
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