I don’t think it really matters when the police were called. Victims process things differently. I don’t think it’s fair to say she waited “(x) days, to report it. Must mean she’s lying.” Not saying TSJ is guilty or innocent, just making a general statement.
Terrence Shannon Jr. suspended
- Status
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
Probable cause was probably a close call. Like someone mentioned earlier, they probably tried to get statements from everyone, look at phone records, wait for any DNA evidence to be analyzed (even if there is no dispute about a sexual encounter happening), and then make a charging decision in what will likely be a difficult he-said-she-said case.
Again… the accuser didn’t file the complaint on 12/5, the DA did. It’s already been confirmed that this investigation has been underway since September.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
The accuser made her complaint in September. The DA's office built a case and so didn't file the formal complaint (State of Kansas v. TSJ) until today. As others have noted, it can take time for authorities to amass sufficient evidence to press charges.
So what was WCIA referring to tonight at 6 saying the incident was sept 9th, complaint was filed Dec 5th and warrant yesterday. Are you saying WCIA is incorrect?
Anyway this sucks. Goodnight ILL
Prayers to TSJ, the Illini coaches, and the Illini Men's Basketball Program. Next man up, there's a lot more basketball to play this season, hopefully we'll still be able to enjoy it.
If it happened after her birthday, she’d technically be over 18. 18 and 1 day… 18 and 2 days…
Once again 0440 is correct
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
He's saying that WCIA was accurate. They just didn't give details on the police investigation. It's literally just the way the criminal justice system works
GallopingGhost
- Denver, CO
If you think you guys are having a hard day with this ( I am) just imagine there’s about 100 other people this is worse for.
Terrence
The victim
Families of both
Teammates and coaches
Others close to the program
The list goes on and on.
I can’t imagine how they’re all handling it… we are just fans.
Love to all yall.
Let’s hold each other tight and keep rooting on our team for the rest of the season. All is not lost.
Terrence
The victim
Families of both
Teammates and coaches
Others close to the program
The list goes on and on.
I can’t imagine how they’re all handling it… we are just fans.
Love to all yall.
Let’s hold each other tight and keep rooting on our team for the rest of the season. All is not lost.
Tragic situation. Regardless of TJ’s innocence or guilt, one thing I’m pretty certain about is that we won’t see him again on the court for the Illini. Not enough time for this to resolve.
If you think you guys are having a hard day with this ( I am) just imagine there’s about 100 other people this is worse for.
Terrence
The victim
Families of both
Teammates and coaches
Others close to the program
The list goes on and on.
I can’t imagine how they’re all handling it… we are just fans.
Love to all yall.
I would suggest using the term accuser instead of victim until we know more. Victim, in this instance, implies that TSJ is perceived guilty.
I’ve been thinking tonight, at what point does it make sense to hire “babysitters” for these guys. I know it sounds condescending, but really. There’s obviously too much temptation out there and too many ways for these guys to get into trouble. Babysitters is probably the wrong word. But if I were the coach i would assign chaperones to key players during high risk events. I don’t know how it would work but obviously some players need their hand held. Once the chaperone feels like they can trust an individual, maybe then you can let them go out without supervision.
Not precisely. The incident was known. Whether she had called cops at that point is unknown.
Let's be careful with our language. There must be a better term to use than the "victim." That more or less presumes a crime. Potentially, Shannon could be the victim.If you think you guys are having a hard day with this ( I am) just imagine there’s about 100 other people this is worse for.
Terrence
The victim
Families of both
Teammates and coaches
Others close to the program
The list goes on and on.
I can’t imagine how they’re all handling it… we are just fans.
Love to all yall.
You can't stop college kids from going to a party or having intercourse with women. If anyone has earned the right to have any kind of fun(in the sense of being a college kid), it is TSJ. He appears to be a relentless worker at improving his skills and working on his craft. To "chaperone" a college kid is extremely unrealistic. It has to be left up to the college student athlete to make his/her own decisions and to accept the risks that they may be taking in making those decisions. Obviously, in this case, having intercourse with someone in another college town knowing it would probably be a one night stand, was probably poor judgement. But, lots of young people have one night stands and hard to resist those types of temptations in the heat of the moment
But, we don't know the reality of what happened here and who is lying and who isn't lying. There shouldn't be a rush to judgement but we all know how this goes. Perception is reality and if there's any kind of perception that TSJ did what he is accused of, his reputation will have long lasting damages....way worse than what Meyers Leonard had to deal with. To have your name dragged through the mud and be called a rapist is one of only a few of the worst offenses that a person can be accused of
Last edited:
LOL I can tell you are not talking about the game thread
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
The DA won't file a complaint without evidence. The role of the police is to gather evidence. They had to be called prior to the complaint being filed. The news doesn't have to mention that. There's no conspiracy theory around the timing of this
I have a law degree from a top 20 law school and 40 years of actual experience as a lawyer, and TSJ wouldn't want me anywhere near his case (unless its for the prosecution). I do commercial and real estate law. Whitman has never practiced to my knowledge. So, while JW might have some understanding of the process, I doubt he has any great feel for what TSJ is facing, the process, or the prospects for a early resolution except for what he is being told by criminal lawyers. A law degree has very little to do with the actual practice of law.You all realize Josh has a law degree right?
Lol! The game thread is a whole different animal.
Of course the police were involved. But they could have been called days or weeks after the event. It happens frequently.
I'm not suggesting a conspiracy. But people are jumping to a lot of conclusions.
Josh has worked as an attorney but thank you.
Terrence’s own lawyer says he’s been cooperating with law enforcement since September.
I second what was said earlier about digital discovery. These are kids. This is 2023. There is potentially a mountain of information that has been exchanged since September between any number of individuals involved either directly or indirectly.
Nothing more to add to that thought. Just an observation.
Nothing more to add to that thought. Just an observation.
Most do, some don't even know who you are referring to!
And during those 90 days, TSJ turned himself into a probable 1st round NBA pick suddenly worth a lot more money. Probably just a coincidence, not accusing anyone of anything.
- Status