Illinois 87, Nebraska 84 OT Postgame

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Bigtex

DFW
Who was the 1st half free throw lane violation on? I think it was Rodgers (shooter). Anyone know?
 
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Who was the 1st half free throw lane violation on? I think it was Rodgers (shooter). Anyone know?

Yes, they called that on Rodgers stepping over (as the shooter). Was bound to happen as he does it as routine/every FT attempt. I then noticed his next FT attempt he kept himself from stepping in, and missed badly. So hopefully, it isn't a thing where he needs that forward step for whatever reason to make them.
 
#354      

Bigtex

DFW
Yes, they called that on Rodgers stepping over (as the shooter). Was bound to happen as he does it as routine/every FT attempt. I then noticed his next FT attempt he kept himself from stepping in, and missed badly. So hopefully, it isn't a thing where he needs that forward step for whatever reason to make them.
thanks. Seems like for Rodgers it is a rhythm thing....
 
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It’s a hard game to ref. The game’s moving at 100 miles an hour. The plays you’re blowing your whistle on happen in a split second. You don’t always have a great angle.

Which is all the more reason to hire full time referees who live & breathe the game and pay them very well.
Oh I agree. I think that's a big part of the problem- the refs simply aren't fast enough to keep up with the play and so in a lot of cases you have a ref in a bad position intuiting a foul based on body position of players. One thing that hasn't really been discussed, and I know this will drive people even crazier, but I almost think they may need to expand their crew from 3 to 4. Have 2 refs primarily responsible for running each baseline and the other 2 primarily responsible for running each sideline between the paint and then define each ref's role a lot better. Right now, it just seems that these 3 ref crews are having trouble even getting appropriate sightlines on the court
 
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And yet, we were up 10 late. We will truly be elite when we seize what we have but not turning the ball over during this time. This happened with Marquette so it is a pattern.

Also, I forget where I read about “kill shots” that measured a teams ability to go on a 10-0 run, and we ranked high in that category. But we also ranked high to give them up. We have to work on that aspect.
I have to imagine that correlates strongly to percentage of 3s taken for/against....any of our statistically minded folks want to look at that?
 
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And yet, we were up 10 late. We will truly be elite when we seize what we have but not turning the ball over during this time. This happened with Marquette so it is a pattern.

Also, I forget where I read about “kill shots” that measured a teams ability to go on a 10-0 run, and we ranked high in that category. But we also ranked high to give them up. We have to work on that aspect.
I wonder if some of that is attributable to fatigue. It’s a lot easier to jack ups 3 than drive through 3 or 4 bodies, getting beat up along the way. It can’t be easier making 3 s late in the game when your legs are about gone.
 
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Anyone else notice that Ty is close to a violation every time he shoots free throws? He steps forward over the line before the ball hits the rim. I believe they called it on him once in last nights game. I've noticed all year and thought it was an obvious violation.
Yeah, the shooter cannot break the plane of the free throw line until the ball hits something. Surprised it isn't called more on him.
 
#362      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
This win is for my big brother (74) who I lost this morning to a heart attack, the guy who initiated my passion for all things Illini. He’s the reason I went to Illinois as he was a senior when I was a freshman. There ya go, Charlie! This one’s for you! 🧡 💙

:chief::hailtotheorange::chief:

Pouring one out for Charlie tonight.

And I just want to put this out in the world because...you never know. I lost my brother a year ago in Dec. 22. I think I posted about it.

We've been Texas Rangers fans from the womb....and somehow they made a magical run to World Series Champions last year.

I like to think my bro was directing that magical season.

Now I hope Charlie is directing this Illini MBB team to a magical March this year. :illinois::hailtotheorange:
 
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And this is the answer to the other poster(s) who asked why TSJ was putting up 3s instead of driving. He knew he'd get hammered and no call.
Their strategy all night was to pack it in, then double anybody driving in, leaving us open for 3s every time down the court. They were hoping for a cold shooting night from us and got it. Fortunately, we won anyway, sign of a really good team.

We're getting there, folks, we should be peaking right around BTT time, IMO
 
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Yeah, the shooter cannot break the plane of the free throw line until the ball hits something. Surprised it isn't called more on him.
Wait so it the ball is a perfect swish, it can be waved off if that happens just before the ball hits the twine?
Not sure I've ever seen that called
 
#365      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
B1G refereeing is better and NBA refereeing is worse than they used to be.

Lol.....I'll refrain from taking the obvious peanut gallery cheap shot at this.

I will simply ask you to show your work please.

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#367      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Lol.....I'll refrain from taking the obvious peanut gallery cheap shot at this.

I will simply ask you to show your work please.

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Maybe I'm just getting softer in my old age, but I feel like I haven't seen a vintage Bo Ryan drive-by bank robbery in years.

Getting rid of the hand checking has helped a lot I think. It's a clearer and easier game to officiate than the Greco-Roman wrestling meets of yore.
 
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I think the only play that really upset me from TSJ last night was the last of back to back to back threes he attempted late game.

I assume he wanted to fully end the game away after hitting that first one but the two heat checks after left a ton of time on the clock and allowed nebby to extend the game. Unacceptable and uncharacteristic, I don’t expect to see the same again.
 
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I’m sure Goode will be the first to admit he expected himself to make all of his open shots and is disappointed he didn’t finish. What keeps me from throwing any more shade besides “he knows he has to do better” is he still hits the glass hard and gave us huge possessions off of missed FTs. That tells me he just missed, not a lack of effort or whatever nonsense people throw his way. Every shot he took was a shot I want him taking 100% of the time. Hope he gets them falling because he is the difference between a blowout and a nail biter.
 
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I agree to an extent but they also did a great job on basically everyone except Tominaga, Gary, and Mast at the 3pt line.

Completely shutdown Williams and Wilcher. The effort is there just need to clean up some things that is leading to wide open 3s.

It seems like Brad hates it but I think this roster could trap effectively in certain situations but they don't really do it. Think they could force a ton of turnovers if they trapped more along the sidelines.
I really don’t know how we could have guarded Tominaga any better. He hit so many with a guy in his face (as great players do) and one reason he got some nice layups was because we were so tight on him (and rightfully so). I really felt like TSJ had his best defensive effort in a while despite Tominaga going off. I see him going off as better offense just beating good defense IMO. Mast was getting too many open 3s with how well he can shoot it though.
 
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B1G refereeing is better and NBA refereeing is worse than they used to be.
NBA is a totally different animal, Big Ten officiating has never been good, worst in all the major conferences, and definitely the most inconsistent every game, both ways, but home court is worth 5 points in missed/no calls
 
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NBA is a totally different animal, Big Ten officiating has never been good, worst in all the major conferences, and definitely the most inconsistent every game, both ways, but home court is worth 5 points in missed/no calls
B1G refs tend to let a lot of stuff go, which is why I think the conference tends to struggle in the tournament. You start getting called for things that have been let go for months, end up getting in foul trouble and playing tight.
That's one of my main worries for this squad. We have been great at avoiding fouls in conference, and we tend to get reactive when they get called.