Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I can't open Xitter at work anymore because random human anatomy pictures show up in comments...

But also most of the fun recruiting content has turned into pay to play...which is another reason why folks on here should be a bit more appreciative of what we get :D
Wait... Dan isn't charging you?!
 
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Price on Kasparas Jakucionis is about $1m right now.

If it goes much higher it could be a problem, but right now he's in Illinois' wheel house.
Watkins was asking for around 1mil too. I'd rather give it to him without a doubt.

What exactly drew us away from him? Did he bump up his price tag?...Or did they get wind he was staying in the draft?
 
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lots of lessons to be learned from the first true free for all NIL offseason. Storr seems like a bargain now
Agreed. I think the staff holding off on landing a big fish was a blunder. I still trust in Brad and I'll reserve final judgement.
Storr was asking for things other than just the 1 mil wasn't he?
Money can magically make other things go away. I'm sure an extra $100K could have helped. We were in the driver's seat on that one, until we weren't
 
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Price on Kasparas Jakucionis is about $1m right now.

If it goes much higher it could be a problem, but right now he's in Illinois' wheel house.
Thought the plan was Kasparas and Lathon. If we give that money to Kasparas, do we have room to land Lathon?

If we pay that money to Kasparas and can't land Lathon...

Lathon & Monsanto > just Kasparas...without a doubt IMO.
 
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Yeah we all remember the days when Twitter was ran well…
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It was run extremely well in terms of getting crazy idiots to spend all their time on there and take it way too seriously.

That was the value proposition, it was the backbone of online discourse, and Elon's screwing it up by making it less accessible and less easy to use.
 
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Watkins was asking for around 1mil too. I'd rather give it to him without a doubt.

What exactly drew us away from him? Did he bump up his price tag?...Or did they get wind he was staying in the draft?

off by 50%. beyond $, we don't have an in. I think we decided that its too risky to put all our eggs in one basket. by the time we find out, it's too late to pivot, at least well
 
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It was run extremely well in terms of getting crazy idiots to spend all their time on there and take it way too seriously.

That was the value proposition, it was the backbone of online discourse, and Elon's screwing it up by making it less accessible and less easy to use.
So less idiots? Less censoring? Less people spending all their time and taking it way too seriously? If Elon Musk is an idiot then I wanna be one too
 
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So less idiots? Less censoring? Less people spending all their time and taking it way too seriously? If Elon Musk is an idiot then I wanna be one too
Well put it this way, Elon has not increased the market value of Twitter as a business. He overpaid for it and it has been bleeding value from Day 1.

Musk himself seems to have sort of quasi-charitable aims for the platform though, so who knows whether he's even trying to grow the business.

He'd be doing the world a favor if he just pulled the plug, frankly.
 
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It was run extremely well in terms of getting crazy idiots to spend all their time on there and take it way too seriously.

That was the value proposition, it was the backbone of online discourse, and Elon's screwing it up by making it less accessible and less easy to use.
Sigh, I hate to even go fringe political on this message board, BUT.... The old Twitter was unapologetically censoring people, highlighting certain influences, and blacklisting influences that it did not agree with in a clear overreach of moderation. While it may now be *different*, I would not go as far to say that it is now screwed up. It is very far from perfect, but it is also not a scrubbed/sanitized version of what some group (or some person) wants you to read and believe.

/soapbox over
 
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Sigh, I hate to even go fringe political on this message board, BUT.... The old Twitter was unapologetically censoring people, highlighting certain influences, and blacklisting influences that it did not agree with in a clear overreach of moderation. While it may now be *different*, I would not go as far to say that it is now screwed up. It is very far from perfect, but it is also not a scrubbed/sanitized version of what some group (or some person) wants you to read and believe.

/soapbox over
Oh it still does all that. Just for the other side. It was never about stopping censorship. It's always been about censoring different people.
 
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Agreed. I think the staff holding off on landing a big fish was a blunder. I still trust in Brad and I'll reserve final judgement.

Money can magically make other things go away. I'm sure an extra $100K could have helped. We were in the driver's seat on that one, until we weren't
At the time, I didn't think Storr was a good value. His price seemed to much based on hype/potential rather than actual performance (low efficiency even adjusted for usage).

It's possible that, in hindsight, he will end up being a good value (either from improvement or NIL inflation), but I can't fault the staff (or donors) for dropping out of that bidding war based on presumed market prices at that time.

I think there are other targets since then that I'm more disappointed we missed, but I don't know how real of a chance we had with any of them. And we still don't know who we will get.
 
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Price on Kasparas Jakucionis is about $1m right now.

If it goes much higher it could be a problem, but right now he's in Illinois' wheel house.
Not sure how high a value to place on him as a player, but he's very fun to watch so I'm all in.
 
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you're conflating wealth with being a tech genius
One of the best examples is on a whim deciding to rename/rebrand the platform from Twitter to X without any true sense of market testing. It was such a bad rebrand that people are still calling the platform Twitter and the posts tweets. The bird logo was without a doubt one of the most well-known logos in existence to now a bleak, black "X". I think that a rebrand was needed at some point, but those need to be well thought out. This clearly wasn't.
 
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Thought the plan was Kasparas and Lathon. If we give that money to Kasparas, do we have room to land Lathon?

If we pay that money to Kasparas and can't land Lathon...

Lathon & Monsanto > just Kasparas...without a doubt IMO.
Underwood says he only wants one more. He said in a recent interview, "You can have too many."
 
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At the time, I didn't think Storr was a good value. His price seemed to much based on hype/potential rather than actual performance (low efficiency even adjusted for usage).

It's possible that, in hindsight, he will end up being a good value (either from improvement or NIL inflation), but I can't fault the staff (or donors) for dropping out of that bidding war based on presumed market prices at that time.

I think there are other targets since then that I'm more disappointed we missed, but I don't know how real of a chance we had with any of them. And we still don't know who we will get.
I don't think it was impossible to foresee NIL inflation given basic supply/demand. I've heard plenty of people say in the beginning that "prices will only go up".
 
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