CFB Playoff & Bowl Games

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Grandpa
Oracle21 said:
Indiana got to the playoff by blowing teams out.

Nebraska 56-7
Purdue 66-0
UCLA 42-13
Northwestern 41-24
Michigan State 47-10
Purdue 66-0

They were absolutely one of the top 10 teams in football by every metric. They lost to two top 5 teams on the road, but blew out everyone else other than Michigan which was a close game (and the same Michigan team that played better at the end of the year and beat Ohio State).

Indiana made the playoff based on margin of victory within the conference. Illinois would not have come close to it as you can see in the common games.
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Putting Purdue on the list twice is impressive only if you scan quickly.
 
#254      
New Creation
Kirk said it looks like 40K vol fans in the shoe tonight.. haha..
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#260      
OrangeBlue98
CoachHooleyHoo said:
The overreaction to these games is so entertaining. Blowouts do not necessarily equate to “the wrong teams were in the playoffs.” Momentum in high pressure games often make games look more lopsided than normal. Prove me wrong.
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We see the same thing happen in the NCAA basketball tournament, so not surprising to see it in football.
 
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Mr. Tibbs
Illini4Chief said:
59-0, IU on top 4th quarter 1:43 left........IU scores again...
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i’m no fan of purdue , also no fan of IU, but Cignetti gonna find out next year the B1G is gonna be a bit tougher and coaches are gonna remember crap like that .

points scored on offense should never be a criteria for tie breaking regarding standings
 
#268      
FGCUIllini
Mr. Tibbs said:
let’s be real tho , thru the years lots of BCS & CFP games have been one sided
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2023 CFP National Championship
Georgia beat TCU 65–7, a 58-point margi

2013 BCS National Championship Game: Alabama 42, Notre Dame 14:

2011 BCS National Championship Game: Alabama 21, LSU 0:

2006 BCS National Championship Game: Florida 41, Ohio State 14:

2004 BCS National Championship Game: USC 55, Oklahoma 19:
 
#269      
Snoopy
Wonder how Allstate and ESPN are feeling about all the money they paid to sponsor and broadcast a bunch of unwatchable games?
 
#271      
phats22
PasadenaIllini said:
I'll hold my breath until the same pundits who were so quick to declare that Indiana and SMU didn't belong in the playoff say the same thing about SEC darling Tennessee.
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it really is too bad the big ten is overrated. i mean, who knows if they're good or not?

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#273      
aaeismacgychel
As with any year, it's simply that there's a pretty large gap between the actual National Championship contenders and those who are simply having great seasons. I've always been on the side of reward teams for having great seasons even if they're midmajors. Give them a shot at the big boys, they earned it on the field by winning games. 3 loss teams can complain all they want about being left out in the cold for the most part because of playing in tough conferences, but if they were truly special, they never would have lost 3 games.

0 loss midmajors and 1 loss major conference teams should be shoo-ins regardless of schedule. 1 loss midmajors or 2 loss majors should be in no matter what so long as they beat an end of season CFP Top 25 team and no bad losses. Other than that, debate away. But 3 loss teams with bad losses trying to get in the playoff because they claim to have more talent on their roster? Big meh from me. If we're going that route, why even play the games? You have enough advantages as it is, should've proven it on the field by losing less games
 
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Oracle21
Point-Illinois said:
This whole debate is interesting, but I think it’s simply circling the root cause of the entire conversation.

Someone else just posted about weight class, and I think that’s a good way to put it.

Indiana beat nobody this year but had 11 nobodies so they get in with 11-1. That doesn’t mean they are bad, however, just that they took care of business against the nobodies.

Each year, I bet there are maybe 4-7 teams with legit shots to win it all. Like, truly a chance based on talent, depth, and coaching. Those teams are in the top weight class and it’s unsure where the cutoff is each year.

This year, after the first two games, it’s looking at LEAST like the cutoff is around 8 teams. (Pending the results of tonight, so it may be lower)

The point is IU belonged in the 12 team playoff based on metrics and resume simply because somebody has to fill spots 9-12.

That doesn’t mean they were ever a legit threat to win it all. Seems to be the same with SMU and the jury is out on Boise, ASU, and Clemson.

Bottom line, did they belong? Yes and no.

Yes inside the 12 team playoff.
No because they were playing in a weight class they simply can’t compete in.

Which begs the true question, did the CFP expand too much? Maybe 8 SHOULD have been the number. It’d get rid of Cinderella stories but would that be possible in CFB anyway? This first weekend is pointing towards no so far.
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I think they expanded too much for sure. 8 teams is what it should be with no byes. Seed 1 thru 8. Every playoff game is at a bowl site. That’s how I’d do it. This first round with home vs away just seems pointless
 
#275      
PasadenaIllini
aaeismacgychel said:
As with any year, it's simply that there's a pretty large gap between the actual National Championship contenders and those who are simply having great seasons. I've always been on the side of reward teams for having great seasons even if they're midmajors. Give them a shot at the big boys, they earned it on the field by winning games. 3 loss teams can complain all they want about being left out in the cold for the most part because of playing in tough conferences, but if they were truly special, they never would have lost 3 games.

0 loss midmajors and 1 loss major conference teams should be shoo-ins regardless of schedule. 1 loss midmajors or 2 loss majors should be in no matter what so long as they beat an end of season CFP Top 25 team and no bad losses. Other than that, debate away. But 3 loss teams with bad losses trying to get in the playoff because they claim to have more talent on their roster? Big meh from me. If we're going that route, why even play the games? You have enough advantages as it is, should've proven it on the field by losing less games
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This is the same team that beat top 4 Alabama. I'm not sure it's a talent thing necessarily. They just look completely shellshocked today. Unprepared to play.
 
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