College Athletics Enters Revenue Sharing Era

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RabidDawgClassic
Josh Whitman is the best athletic director Illinois has had in my lifetime, and it’s not even close. His steady hand and keen intellect is guiding Illinois to previously unseen heights. But man, listening to him on Saturday Sportstalk, it almost seemed like an SNL parody sketch or some form of satire every time he said the words, with a straight face, “NIL Go.” What creative genius came up with that name? Was NIL+ not available?
 
#102      
PNWIllini
RabidDawgClassic said:
Josh Whitman is the best athletic director Illinois has had in my lifetime, and it’s not even close. His steady hand and keen intellect is guiding Illinois to previously unseen heights. But man, listening to him on Saturday Sportstalk, it almost seemed like an SNL parody sketch or some form of satire every time he said the words, with a straight face, “NIL Go.” What creative genius came up with that name? Was NIL+ not available?
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Neale “the 80s belong to the Illini” Stoner is the only one who might compare.

Whitman has had this cooking for 3-4 years now. If he can get to 8 or 10 he has braggin rights.
 
#104      
Calvin
ChiTown said:
This is the sign of the times…I believe we’re going to start seeing more of this.
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It doesn't take much imagination to see a new wild west emerging from the post-settlement world.
 
#106      
Bucktown
Calvin said:
Not at all surprised.

Seems the commission is already putting out rules the athletes say aren't consistent with the agreement.
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If true whomever is on the Commission seems to be missing the point.

"The CSC, in its letter last week, explained that if a collective reaches a deal, for instance, for an athlete to appear on behalf of the collective, which charges an admission fee, that collective does not have a “valid business purpose” because the purpose of the event is to raise money to pay athletes, not to provide goods or services available to the general public for profit."

That is textbook NIL, right? ...an athlete raising money on its Name Image and Likeness. The suspect deals are something like when the local booster WAY overpays for an appearance in a local commercial.
 
#109      
the juiceman cometh
ChiTown said:
School wasn’t like this back when I went through…..
https://twitter.com/x/status/1945212631842705652
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Just an FYI because it's not obvious from this clip, but those are not Lambos owned by players. They're put on display because of an NIL partnership with a local Lambo dealership. They give cars to like 2 players a season (and I'm not sure if the players even own the cars, it could just be a lease for the season, there's not a lot of detail on it out there). That said, Sark is still obviously full of s@#!, and this is clearly meant to appeal to recruits who very much are in it for money, not "school & culture"
 
#110      
DReq
the juiceman cometh said:
Just an FYI because it's not obvious from this clip, but those are not Lambos owned by players. They're put on display because of an NIL partnership with a local Lambo dealership. They give cars to like 2 players a season (and I'm not sure if the players even own the cars, it could just be a lease for the season, there's not a lot of detail on it out there). That said, Sark is still obviously full of s@#!, and this is clearly meant to appeal to recruits who very much are in it for money, not "school & culture"
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Well, if you really want to talk culture, it looks mostly like that is a culture of greed so Sark may be right.
 
#111      
Calvin
Bucktown said:
If true whomever is on the Commission seems to be missing the point.

"The CSC, in its letter last week, explained that if a collective reaches a deal, for instance, for an athlete to appear on behalf of the collective, which charges an admission fee, that collective does not have a “valid business purpose” because the purpose of the event is to raise money to pay athletes, not to provide goods or services available to the general public for profit."

That is textbook NIL, right? ...an athlete raising money on its Name Image and Likeness. The suspect deals are something like when the local booster WAY overpays for an appearance in a local commercial.
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This runs right along with your point.

You never know how the judge will rule, but personally, I'd bet against the CSC. Maybe they're testing the waters to see if they can get away with overstepping their authority or wanting to get better guidance.
 
#113      
BWA
ChiTown said:
What are your opinions on this development ?.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1946210661664477284
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There should be no caps. Let the players get what they are worth. It definitely shouldn’t be coming from the president.

But… they should allow NCAA to go back to enforcing transfer limits/sit out years or allow longer term contracts enticing players to stay for multiple years. and clauses in NIL contracts that force players to actually play to get paid. Ridiculous that players are able to redshirt or sit out of bowl games and still get their full NIL.
 
#114      
ChiTown
Don’t think executive order from the president is warranted either,but the toothless tiger named NCAA should have some enforcement powers and some kind of framework and rules regarding NIL too.
 
#116      
HereSoIDontGetFined
ChiTown said:
Don’t think executive order from the president is warranted either,but the toothless tiger named NCAA should have some enforcement powers and some kind of framework and rules regarding NIL too.
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It's always amazed me how every major sport has a proper commission and can handle these sorts of things, and the NCAA is just kind of throwing their hands up constantly because they can't handle the job.
 
#117      
Illini in Italy
RabidDawgClassic said:
Another paper tiger “executive order” that will go nowhere.
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Yeah, I'm wondering under what authority he'll base it on, Trumpian logic?
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lstewart53x3
ChiTown said:
What are your opinions on this development ?.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1946210661664477284
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The race bait is gross.

Tim Miller obviously doesn’t even understand the situation. It’s not the boosters complaining about NIL. The boosters love it. Allowing unlimited resources to be pumped into the athletic department of your choice is what gives the booster’s team a competitive advantage.

The people who don’t like it:

- Coaches and ADs because it puts the majority of programs at a competitive disadvantage.

- Fans (because see previous bullet).

If the fans go away, so does the money.

Protecting the sport protects the athletes in the long run.

I’m not sure exactly what the SCORE act is or if it will make things better or worse. But I do know it has nothing to do with race (61% of college athletes are white after all) and allowing each individual state to have their own NIL laws probably isn't the right move.
 
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Calvin
lstewart53x3 said:
I’m not sure exactly what the SCORE act is or if it will make things better or worse. But I do know it has nothing to do with race (61% of college athletes are white after all) and allowing each individual state to have their own NIL laws probably isn't the right move.
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That strikes me as cherry-picked. It's not the non-revenue sports or overall pool that's making life-changing money. Most of the NIL settlement is going to football and basketball, and most of that is going to players in 4 conferences. Anecdotal, but if I go to 247 sports, look at the top players on their fb recruiting page. It's not remotely close to what you suggest.
 
#125      
ChiTown
Calvin said:
That strikes me as cherry-picked. It's not the non-revenue sports or overall pool that's making life-changing money. Most of the NIL settlement is going to football and basketball, and most of that is going to players in 4 conferences. Anecdotal, but if I go to 247 sports, look at the top players on their fb recruiting page. It's not remotely close to what you suggest.
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You beat me to it……courtesy of ncpanow.org

Table 5. Racial Composition of Coaches & Players in NCAA Division I Football & Men’s Basketball

WhiteBlackOther
Football
Head Coaches82%15%3%
Defensive Coordinators72%22%6%
Offensive Coordinators80%15%5%
Players37%49%15%
Men’s Basketball
Head Coach69%28%2%
Assistant Coach47%48%5%
Players23%56%21%
 
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