Pregame: Illinois vs Michigan, Friday, February 27th, 7:00pm CT, FOX

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Calling a game with a 50/50 chance of a win a 'guaranteed loss' is certainly something.

Given there is a 50% probability, in order to fairly see things from another perspective, let me ask you this:
What would you say to someone who calls this game a 'guaranteed win'? You both have the same chance of being correct, by the way.
I would say they are entitled to their opinion and would understand their confidence based on some of the games we've played (Indiana, Nebraska, Purdue, USC).

The spread had us winning against Wisconsin... I think it was -10.5 in favor of Illinois.

There are weaknesses in this team that I've personally seen in some of our wins and losses and I don't think we are good enough to beat the top teams like Michigan (or other 1 seeds). I don't think our defense will be consistent enough to win- on top of how poorly we've played at home.

Obviously I know I'm going based on gut instinct- similarly to the UCLA game- at halftime I told a friend, the first 3-4 minutes will tell us if we will win or not. 3 minutes in we both looked at each other and knew we would lose. At that point- odds would've said we were going to win- but the odds didn't take into consideration the eye test in that moment.
 
#356      
Not true when teams still have 2-3 games left.
Most likely is what I meant. Plugging in different results if we lose to Michigan, we will get a 4 seed due to tie breakers but we should not be worse than 4th unless we have a hiccup next week.
 
#357      
I think Mirk comes back with a vengenance, he does not seem like the type to have back to back stinkers. If they have Morez on him, he will bite on his fake, and I can foresee him being in foul trouble.
This is the most physical big that Mirk will play against....by FAR. He needs to be super effective shooting the three. MJJ biting on a pump fake does nothing but funnel him down to Mara. If Mirk doesn't make the three, it will be a one sided matchup because Morez is going to punish him in the post with Mirk far more likely to be in foul trouble. That's just how it works when one guy is interior based and one is perimeter based. If Mirk can pull him out of the lane and bury some shots, that would be a huge factor. If not, it's an absolutely terrible matchup for us.

I feel the same way about the Michigan guards as I do about Mirk. They have to make threes at a relatively high clip. I see us packing into a tight zone to try and eliminate disparity in front courts. If they beat us from the perimeter, we live with it. If they outscore us 36 to 8 in the paint, that would be irritating because we absolutely know their strength and we know the underbelly of what we are defensively.

Make their guards beat us and if they do, so be it.
 
#358      
I think Mirk comes back with a vengenance, he does not seem like the type to have back to back stinkers. If they have Morez on him, he will bite on his fake, and I can foresee him being in foul trouble.
So long has he’s not concussed I agree. He hasn’t had many bad games but has always bounced back.
 
#359      
Win tomorrow night and we are in line for a 2 seed in the BTT and a 1 or 2 seed in March. We lose tomorrow night, the best we will get is a 4 seed in the BTT and a 2-3 seed in the Tourney. Biggest game of the season and we need to get out and get the crowd into the game.
The best? Nope.

There are various scenarios at play. Few of them:

If we lose to Michigan — but UCLA beats Nebraska, and Michigan State loses two more games (@Purdue, @Michigan)…. the Illini will be the 3seed.

If we lose to Michigan — but UCLA beats Nebraska, Michigan State loses two more games, AND Purdue loses one more game… the Illini will be a 2seed.

I actually think a 3 seed would be more likely than a 4seed.

You can check these scenarios out using the BIG bracket generator:

 
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#360      
I think “The Nature Boy” Ric Flair said it best: “To be the man you’ve got to beat the man!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!”
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#361      

Just got around to listening.

Trotter really confident in an Illini W here with us being one of the few teams that match them in size and we can make both their bigs guard on the perimeter, which really hardly any other teams can do. Also of course citing how we don't foul and can more than match their rebounding. Yet also Cadeau is the type of guard we've struggled to contain.
 
#363      
Win tomorrow night and we are in line for a 2 seed in the BTT and a 1 or 2 seed in March.
The reality is that even with a win tomorrow night, the path to a 1 seed in the tourney is disappearing. It looks like Michigan, Duke, and Arizona are virtual locks for a 1 seed (all three of them have double-digit Quad 1 wins) -- unless one of them loses out down the stretch (Arizona does have two top 10 home matchups coming up), and UCONN has a very tight grip on the last 1 seed with their thorough demolition of St. John's last night (even with their ugly Quad 3 loss at home vs Creighton). Barring a UCONN collapse down the stretch or Michigan losing out regular season (vs us, @Iowa, and MSU), I think the first 2 seed is probably the ceiling for the Illini. Win on Friday (and the remaining two games of regular season), and the 2 seed is likely locked up regardless of BTT.
 
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The reality is that even with a win tomorrow night, the path to a 1 seed in the tourney is disappearing. It looks like Michigan, Duke, and Arizona are virtual locks for a 1 seed (all three of them have double-digit Quad 1 wins) -- unless one of them loses out down the stretch (Arizona does have two top 10 home matchups coming up), and UCONN has a very tight grip on the last 1 seed with their thorough demolition of St. John's last night (even with their ugly Quad 3 loss at home vs Creighton). Barring a UCONN collapse down the stretch or Michigan losing out regular season (vs us, @Iowa, and MSU), I think the first 2 seed is probably the ceiling for the Illini. Win on Friday (and the remaining two games of regular season), and the 2 seed is likely locked up regardless of BTT.

Believe someone said after last night Torvik has UConn with a 38% chance at a 1 seed, so the door hasn’t been completely slammed shut yet
 
#368      
Believe someone said after last night Torvik has UConn with a 38% chance at a 1 seed, so the door hasn’t been completely slammed shut yet
That is probably correct. I think I was focused on Illini's chances of passing UConn (due to the loss head to head). Iowa State likely has the best chance of nabbing the last 1-seed (outside of UConn) -- they have two huge ranked games coming up (Texas Tech and @Arizona). Houston is working their way backward and out of contention.

Almost everything has to align perfectly for the Illini to get a 1 seed at this point (including us possibly winning out). The door may not be completely slammed shut yet, but it is becoming a long shot (even with a win tomorrow night).
 
#370      
That is probably correct. I think I was focused on Illini's chances of passing UConn (due to the loss head to head). Iowa State likely has the best chance of nabbing the last 1-seed (outside of UConn) -- they have two huge ranked games coming up (Texas Tech and @Arizona). Houston is working their way backward and out of contention.

Almost everything has to align perfectly for the Illini to get a 1 seed at this point (including us possibly winning out). The door may not be completely slammed shut yet, but it is becoming a long shot (even with a win tomorrow night).

Agree with you on most of this but think a win tomorrow would move the needle quite a bit. Wisconsin losing last night was actually pretty bad for us though, need that to be a Q1 loss and it moved them down a couple spots.
 
#374      
I know fans get wound up about games like this, and I do too. But it is a basketball game. To be enjoyed. And that is my plan for tomorrow. Enjoy the game. Go Illini! Muck Fishigan.
I'm pretty sure that cancels out the rest of your post. The only enjoyment I'll get from this game is if we destroy scUM/Morez (plus a Wagler triple-double?)
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