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Should’ve been a foul:
Doesn't look like a foul. Did he hit his arm? Looks like he flopped.
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He’s in the shooting motion, and the contact is deliberately made to impede his shot. When you’re shooting, it makes a sizable difference.
Most of all I’m just sick of these not getting called and the one on Coleman in the Penn State game.
There wasn't even contact made.... let alone impeding the shot. What are you on?
Illini2010-11
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All of those above unbeaten teams got 1 seeds though. It is tough to make the comparison that Miami would do well in tourney because they would have been almost certainly the lower seed in their first matchup (even if they won the MAC tourney). Those were all historically good seasons against comparatively better competition than Miami faced. At best, if Miami would have won their tourney, they likely would have been an 8/9 seed as the extreme high end (I would have assumed maybe a 10/11 seed). This would suggest that they would actually be more in line of losing in their first game from a seeding perspective (and very likely predictive/betting market as well). Unless their shooting is very good in the tourney, I doubt they will be able to hang with the power conference teams (based on the defense/rebounding I have seen from Miami the last couple of weeks against poor competition).
I also do not call it "hate" for Miami. Up to today, they won all of their games, even if it was against bad competition. The issue most of us have been seeing is the way they have performed in many of these games against weak competition. Predictive metrics also show this as an issue. Stating those factors does not make you a hater for questioning how bubbly the team is if they took on a loss (side note: still think they sneak into tourney). I was hoping that they would continue their Cinderella unbeaten season into the NCAAT. I simply thought the outcome of losing in the MAC Tourney was a likelihood...I was only off by a day.
I can't tell what/if there was contact from that angle. If he hit his arm, then sure. If he barely grazed it? I personally don't think so.
What contact? I couldn't tell if he actually touched him. Looks like he tried to draw the foul and failed.
He did not hit his arm. He did hit his lower body, which impedes his shooting motion.
Illini in Italy
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4 letter states full of idiots?
If we let Boyd and Blackwell shoot open 3’s, we will get a couple extra days of rest before the NCAAT.
Watch the last 10 minutes of their game today. The way major conference teams bully mid majors is what UMass did to Miami. They put on a clinic in the paint, Miami knew it was coming, and couldn't stop them or rebound the ball. And UMass is 200th in the country! In the most important game of Miami's season. They're just not that impressive. I think they'll be in the first four though and the committee will give them a chance to prove themselves, even though thats something that NCAA at large teams are expected to do during the regular season.
On a side note, it was nice seeing Frank Martin on the sideline. He's a haradss, but I like him.
I see what you're talking about now. Seems like soft contact that isn't usually called. I can't even tell if he gets much more than jersey. He might, but it's not obvious.
Fighter of the Nightman
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Not a great day for us so far, haha. Take care of business and get two wins this weekend!!
If they felt compelled to put them in there, make them a 11 seed in the First Four. If they win that one, then they'll have earned their way into the "real" tournament. If they lose, no harm, no foul.
Fighter of the Nightman
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As someone who is VERY much not an Xs and Os expert (so please, basketball gurus, shut me up if that is warranted!), I will never understand how we seem to leave 3-point shooters open so often. Not saying they're perfect defensively, but we have some big guys down low ... we don't all need to swarm the guy driving the ball, especially when we have regularly seemed to get burned by them dishing it out to an open shooter.
Or just lightly jog at a shooter with one hand half raised! Drives me insane!
You're assuming that just because our big guys are tall, they're physical. They're not and in some cases do need help. If you double, someone's open.
The bigger issue is that our guards can't keep quick guards out of the lane. Recently, there have been a lot of blow byes, which creates the need to collapse. Then, it's one kick out(perimeter player helps) and one more pass to the guy who got help off of and there you go.....wide open.
Have to control the guards and for us, tomorrow will be about stopping Boyd. He had his way the last time around.
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Not an expert, (though I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express on Tuesday, so...) but I think it's several (and a combination of) things. Switching and communication, going under screens, not extending out aggressively from our bigs, and just general lack of intensity.
We ended up with offensive skill over quickness and strength with this roster, so our defenders are very slow getting over/around screens and that leaves a lot of bad options. An open 3 is bad, but so is an easy layup or a lob/dunk.
I'm not sure if a defensive guru couldn't make something out of this roster, but it would probably come at the expense of focusing on the offensive end. I'm resigned to it being what it is.
(edit: also not an expert)
I agree. It seems like before this year our defensive philosophy was to limit 3s, oftentimes to a fault. This Sparty or another team that shoots a lot of middies getting really comfortable or TJD getting 40 on us because we refused to so much as even stunt all game for fear of giving up an open 3.
Overall I do think I like our philosophy more this year in that we try to take away what the other team wants to do, including stunting and at times doubling, but as a consequence we are giving up more 3s.
But at least for purposes of this year with our historically great offense, I think I actually prefer the vanilla, drop coverage limit 3s at all costs approach. If we limit teams to under 10 made 3s, they just can’t score efficiently enough to beat us. And our record in games where opponents make 10+3s this year bears that out.
Stay hot the rest of the way in this one, Wisky! Use up all those threes today!!!!
Just noticed that Brad Davison is on the bench for the Wisconsin staff.
No wonder they beat MSU this season -- he must have been hired to install the nut protection defense against Fears, since he's the expert.
No wonder they beat MSU this season -- he must have been hired to install the nut protection defense against Fears, since he's the expert.
I can’t speak to the eye test of “leaving 3 point shooters open” because I think that’s rather subjective on who or what you consider a 3 point shooter.
But our opponents shoot 31.7% from 3. Thats 6th best (defense against) in the big ten. But 2-6 are all in the 31% - and we actually rank ahead of MSU. Basically identical to Iowa state and Houston who are top ten defenses, and better than Florida who is top 5…
Now, other things going into what that means ofcourse. But I do think if we truly left good 3 point shooters consistently that open, our percentages would be far worse there
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