3/28-3/29 Games Thread

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fatboyslim
WhereDoWeStandWithStorr? said:
Here’s what Boozer sees:

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There’s two UConn players coming to trap him. Up ahead he sees a wide open teammate - if the ball gets there, the game is 100% over.

At the end of the game against full court press, when you’re trapped, you need to pass the ball. What makes you think nothing will happen, they won’t try and pry the ball loose, and just award you a foul? A whole lot can go wrong in that situation as well.

In contrary, he sees a wide open teammate and if he hits him the game is over.

If we’re gonna play “you shouldn’t pass the ball,” then why did Sarr pass it to Boozer to begin with?

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Sarr made the pass because he's under the basket and there's a clear path to make a pass. Boozer tried a jump pass over two players. That's the difference.
 
#479      
fatboyslim
fatboyslim said:
Yes that was Dee that throw an ill-advised pass deep on the side of Arizona's bracket. It was picked off and Stoudamire had a chance to win it but Luther blocked it and sent it into OT.
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Meant basket. I've understandably got bracket on the brain right now.
 
#485      
Rap47
Why are people saying Boozer made a major bonehead play, he didn't even need to cross halfcourt? The ball was inbounds with 10 seconds left. Ok cool call a 10 second violation, UConn gets the ball with 0 seconds left. Now it's possible they could have called a 5 second if he just held it there. But that would have been 5 seconds UConn had to swarm him and not foul. He could have held it for 4 or even 3 seconds and then thrown a bad pass and UConn wouldn't have had time. He could have made pass fake to get the defense to move than made a simple pass. He could have just dribbled the ball, he had room. And again, he could have just bent over and covered the ball up.

He panicked and made the worst possible decision. He jumped and threw into 2 guys. Yes Duke did have 2 guys open deep, he threw to the one that made the pass much more difficult than the guy who basically had a half of the court to himself. That said, Evans I think should have come up to get the ball.

So yes, he did everything wrong. He wasn't under control, he didn't seem to know the situation, he left his feet, and he didn't make a good pass. He had a timeout left too.
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There is no 5 second call in the back court
 
#487      
Godard
I completely understand the reasoning to pass...it was failed execution.

The biggest issue was that there was a chance of held ball, which would have given possession to UCONN. However, Duke did have a timeout, so they could have called it to avoid a held ball.

Worst case scenario happened, and there will be Monday morning QB'ing for a long time. Only reason it was a dumb decision is because of the outcome. Those passes over the top are made regularly without second thought a majority of the time when they work. And if that shot isn't drilled from super deep, this conversation doesn't happen. Super crazy occurrence.
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Your reasoning showcases a classic logical fallacy know as "bad outcome implies bad decision." It comes from a game in the World Series where a live ball is hit into the outfield, George Brett has a full head of steam and is waved around third. The outfielder throws a perfect strike and Brett is tagged out at home. It was still the right call to send Brett, because 99.9% of the time, he scores easily. More recently, Russell Wilson's pass that was intercepted and cost the Seahawks a championship comes to mind. Why didn't they run the ball? Because the Patriots were expecting a run...

More importantly, this outcome showcases something else *much* more important: the universe hates Duke more than we do. If Scheyer had joined Weber's crew in Champaign, this never would have happened!
 
#488      
HereSoIDontGetFined
Watching the play over and over, I think a big problem was that Boozer was left on an island. Instead of two guys in the front court, there should be one, with the fifth guy cross-court from Boozer. Once Scheyer saw the formation, he should have called timeout and setup a different play.

Ultimately, the odds of a bad pass outweigh the odds of a held ball.

It's just a schematic failure and it's something I think Scheyer learns from. The real failure was letting UConn back into it to begin with.
 
#490      
RabidDawgClassic
Illini in Italy said:
Yeah, my Apple Watch was alarming every minute or so "High Heart Rate" the entire second half of our game . . .
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Oh man… been THERE! 😰

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#491      
OrangeBlue98
DeeAndDWill said:
I’m still cackling at the Duke play by play guy complaining about wanting a Techincal on the UConn manager coming off the bench.

Literally a perfect encapsulation of everything Duke.
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By the strict, absolute, 100% letter of the law, that is a technical.

However, no good official is ever going to call that unless something happens to impact the subsequent play.

Officials get to this level partially by understanding what needs to be called and what doesn’t. And a spontaneous response that doesn’t impact play will NEVER be called a technical foul in that circumstance.
 
#492      
MDchicago
For your amusement and to save you the trouble, a sampling of verbiage seen during my rubbernecking visit to The Devil's Den (Duke 247 site).

- It does seem the new frontier in the Duke-UNC rivalry is who can choke the hardest in the NCAA tourny.

- Gonna be fun to watch that Mullins shot every year paired with the Laettner shot.

- Scheyer built the team, so that's on him. He seems to be turning into Calipari: overseer of a one-and-done factory that doesn't win championships.

- Scheyer gets the best talent with the best support system in the game, yet his teams repeatedly fail to execute the most basic tasks when the tournament is on the line. ... How many more times do we have to watch a historic, humiliating collapse before it's okay to question the coaching?

- I am really ******** sick and tired of all this ********* from the refs. How many championships have we lost to the opposite of DGAC now? *************.

- It would be unbelievable if it wasn't so ******** typical of how refs have done us for years now.

- sure zona/mich should beat uconn's **** off, but as we saw tonight anything can happen in 1 game.

- I don't think they [UConn] can beat Arizona or Michigan.

- Just let Illinois win it all
 
#496      
pruman91
puke has had so many years of benefitting from questionable refs calls that really it's just karma coming back at them and they are unable to handle it.........puke puked up an enormous lead , AGAIN , and they got what they deserved.......a swift dagger right to the heart.....too bad it came from the most belligerent and annoying arsehat in college basketball ............it really really is..........

too bad
so sad
I'm glad

snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.............do Bulls fans really want Scheyer as their coach ??.......lol , puke really crapped the bed big time in prime time...........they really really did...................
 
#498      
PasadenaIllini
MDchicago said:
For your amusement and to save you the trouble, a sampling of verbiage seen during my rubbernecking visit to The Devil's Den (Duke 247 site).

- It does seem the new frontier in the Duke-UNC rivalry is who can choke the hardest in the NCAA tourny.

- Gonna be fun to watch that Mullins shot every year paired with the Laettner shot.

- Scheyer built the team, so that's on him. He seems to be turning into Calipari: overseer of a one-and-done factory that doesn't win championships.

- Scheyer gets the best talent with the best support system in the game, yet his teams repeatedly fail to execute the most basic tasks when the tournament is on the line. ... How many more times do we have to watch a historic, humiliating collapse before it's okay to question the coaching?

- I am really ******** sick and tired of all this ********* from the refs. How many championships have we lost to the opposite of DGAC now? *************.

- It would be unbelievable if it wasn't so ******** typical of how refs have done us for years now.

- sure zona/mich should beat uconn's **** off, but as we saw tonight anything can happen in 1 game.

- I don't think they [UConn] can beat Arizona or Michigan.

- Just let Illinois win it all
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It's nice that they're backhandedly pulling for us, but that is some seriously entitled BS right there. They dealt with some serious injuries to important players and still won both their conference regular season and tournament titles not to mention being a Coach-K-nose-length away from a final four appearance. That's a nice season any measure. The Devils Denners should take a laxative, relax and count their blessing given that their program is in the position its in.
 
#499      
DeeAndDWill
OrangeBlue98 said:
By the strict, absolute, 100% letter of the law, that is a technical.

However, no good official is ever going to call that unless something happens to impact the subsequent play.

Officials get to this level partially by understanding what needs to be called and what doesn’t. And a spontaneous response that doesn’t impact play will NEVER be called a technical foul in that circumstance.
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I think the bigger thing was Hurley basically headbutting one of the officials. Did not see that til this AM and holy cow. There’s no way the celebration is ever called. This though?

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Why would Dan Hurley do this? 🥹 I am CRYING
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