Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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I don't see why Ty can't take some of Ben's minutes as an all around glue guy. Obviously Ben shoots the 3 better but he wasn't hoisting them up as much this year.

Ben spent a little too much time IMO this year guarding dudes smaller than him so Ty would slide right in there as well.
Well. I feel one reason you clearly stated. Ty doesnt shoot like Ben or Jake so the floor isnt as spaced. Heck Ty doesnt shoot really at all outside a few feet. Also he isnt 6'9" or near as long. Covering true 4s was tough for Ben at his size. Ty isnt near big enough for that and Andre isnt going to sit much plus its going to be hard to play Andre and Ty together if you want shooting and spacing.
 
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Illinois obviously has a good relationship with Serbian agent Miško Ražnatović because they take care of his clients.

But, he is being a bit difficult.
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If there’s one thing I really took away from one of my discussions with a source today … Brad wants EVERYONE that’s on the team to be here for the whole summer … Doesn’t like guys coming at all different times …

Thinks that will really give us an advantage …

That may mean looking more in the portal than overseas … But it’s got to be the right pieces …

Today’s Blackwell update … Dad wants him here … Kid wants to be here … They’re going to listen to other offers … But at the end of the day … It’s been made clear to me this is where they want to end up … Just have to make the financial piece work … As far as the $5 million rumor or whatever … Don’t put too much stock into that … I won’t discuss numbers on here but there’s 1 guy in the portal who’s asking for $5 million and it’s not Blackwell …
 
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Guessing Petro and JJ
Petro I could definitely see.

I wonder if the draw for JJ to stay would be the degree since he is a Business major? Or if he has his heart set on playing that would lead to him leaving.
 
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I respectfully disagree on your points about Blackwell’s game- I think you are way underestimating his ability to adapt to a new team and system. He’s an athletic, high volume/ very good three point shooter. Look no further than Andrej adjusting his game and becoming a much more efficient scorer in our offense

If you believe his statement- he wants to go somewhere to win, if he’s bought into winning, that is half the battle- clearly Andrej was last year
I think that's what this forum is all about - respectfully disagreement. So I respect your opinion. Let's see how it plays out.
 
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Do I?

of course with literally every other roster in flux an Illini team of returners and Blackwell is going to look the best when compared to others who have maybe 6 guys committed.

If you really want an answer it’s probably Michigan as boring as that sounds. But I’ll play the game for you. Let’s assume you return Cadeau/Morez/Mara/McKinney/Cason and add the 3rd ranked class coming in. That alone gets them close to Illinois. They’ll add a transfer or two and with Yaxels money off the books I’d wager it’ll be pretty darn good ones.

Or let’s look at MSU. They basically return everyone except Kohler and Cooper. They’ll add also add the 5th overall class. Or maybe Duke tickles are fancy. Or inevitably Houston/Florida/literally any team with deep pockets.

I’m putting it in perspective. I think it’s ridiculous to criticize my take of potentially next years team just because everyone else’s roster isn’t set. I personally don’t think Blackwell elevates us to be the absolute best team in the country. Top 10 sure but top overall is a tough mantle to claim.
So, it needs to be re-iterated that the condition here is we get blackwell AND return Mirk, AS, Tomi. That's the conditional statement stemming this convo.

So basically our five would be: Blackwell, Coleman, Stoj, Mirkovic, and Tomi
If you really want an answer it’s probably Michigan as boring as that sounds. But I’ll play the game for you. Let’s assume you return Cadeau/Morez/Mara/McKinney/Cason and add the 3rd ranked class coming in. That alone gets them close to Illinois. They’ll add a transfer or two and with Yaxels money off the books I’d wager it’ll be pretty darn good ones.
Okay well that's quite halarious because 3 of those 5 won't even be on their team next year.
Or let’s look at MSU. They basically return everyone except Kohler and Cooper. They’ll add also add the 5th overall class. Or maybe Duke tickles are fancy. Or inevitably Houston/Florida/literally any team with deep pockets.
MSU - what's thier 5? Fears and Carr... do they have any other capable starters? I understand they'll add in the portal, but truth is our 5 will likely end up a better product.

Yes those other schools - Duke, Houston, Florida - could also have great rosters. But so would we under the aforementioned condition.

I feel like the idea you're bringing up here is that there will be other teams COMPARABLE to Illinois. While 100% true, comparable doesn't exactly mean DEFINITIVELY BETTER.

I don't think his point - that we'll be IN THE MIX for #1 - is as outrageous as you're claiming.
 
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Yeah, this is typically the part of the offseason where transfers are announced and impatient posters decry the culture in the Illini clubhouse and start making lineups including PWO and redshirts and blaming Underwood for the inability to compete.
It’s one of my sources of entertainment. Always gives me some good laughs.

Go Illini
 
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If there’s one thing I really took away from one of my discussions with a source today … Brad wants EVERYONE that’s on the team to be here for the whole summer … Doesn’t like guys coming at all different times …

Thinks that will really give us an advantage …

That may mean looking more in the portal than overseas …
I 100% agree with this!!! Summer is so important to the development of players and teams!!!
 
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Illinois obviously has a good relationship with Serbian agent Miško Ražnatović because they take care of his clients.

But, he is being a bit difficult.
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Today’s Blackwell update … Dad wants him here … Kid wants to be here … They’re going to listen to other offers … But at the end of the day … It’s been made clear to me this is where they want to end up … Just have to make the financial piece work … As far as the $5 million rumor or whatever … Don’t put too much stock into that … I won’t discuss numbers on here but there’s 1 guy in the portal who’s asking for $5 million and it’s not Blackwell …
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Today’s Blackwell update … Dad wants him here … Kid wants to be here … They’re going to listen to other offers … But at the end of the day … It’s been made clear to me this is where they want to end up … Just have to make the financial piece work … As far as the $5 million rumor or whatever … Don’t put too much stock into that … I won’t discuss numbers on here but there’s 1 guy in the portal who’s asking for $5 million and it’s not Blackwell …
The family / legacy element there is just terrific

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Illinois obviously has a good relationship with Serbian agent Miško Ražnatović because they take care of his clients.

But, he is being a bit difficult.
Not surprising. Winning makes everyone's price go up.
 
#220      
Illinois obviously has a good relationship with Serbian agent Miško Ražnatović because they take care of his clients.

But, he is being a bit difficult.
An agent will never be your friend. They will always be looking for more.
 
#221      
Or Andrej and the twins.
I wouldn't be surprised if any of those three wound up leaving. Probably going to come down to how much NIL we can scrounge up and the perceived cost benefit. Postseason Andrej definitely earned himself a payout. Tomi and Z are interesting as their stats from the past year probably don't warrant the amount they will want. And at the same time, it's easy to see how a healthy Tomi and a year of offseason strength and conditioning for Z could allow both to have breakout years next year and make whatever they're asking for seem like a discount. As well, replacing the Ivisic's will be both extremely expensive and could very well be a decrease in production.
 
#222      
Indiana spending $10 million combined on like Flory and Haggerty and being mid sounds so right.

Flory should beg to be at Purdue Imo. But what do I know.
 
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If there’s one thing I really took away from one of my discussions with a source today … Brad wants EVERYONE that’s on the team to be here for the whole summer … Doesn’t like guys coming at all different times …

Thinks that will really give us an advantage …

That may mean looking more in the portal than overseas … But it’s got to be the right pieces …

Today’s Blackwell update … Dad wants him here … Kid wants to be here … They’re going to listen to other offers … But at the end of the day … It’s been made clear to me this is where they want to end up … Just have to make the financial piece work … As far as the $5 million rumor or whatever … Don’t put too much stock into that … I won’t discuss numbers on here but there’s 1 guy in the portal who’s asking for $5 million and it’s not Blackwell …
Good stuff sir🫡

I'd assume that one player looking for $5 mil is trying to get that oil money?
 
#225      
I’m perfectly fine with Blackwell, Mirk, QC, Morillo, Ty and 3 other transfer starters if that’s what it comes to.

Illinois will be overpaying for AS, Tomi and Z if we keep them. They are benefiting from the team making it to Final 4. Let some other team overpay.
 
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