Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Michigan, Florida, the Utah Jazz, Charlotte hornets, Washington Generals
That would be walking into a losing situation...
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I HATE the proposed rule change. HATE it. That means it’s probably going to pass. Maybe I’m overreacting. Wouldn’t be the first time. This really hurts Illinois, in my opinion.

One of the big advantages we had by retaining our players was the built in comraderie and chemistry we had.

Well, if everyone is about to regain the services of multiple players, that negates, in large part anyway, what we accomplished through the retention.

Oh, and I’m sure I’ll get pushback on this but screw it. Kylan Boswell was not a good player last year. He couldn’t shoot. He was so horrific (along with Andrej) that we couldn’t afford both of them on the floor all that much. That’s why Jake Davis was starting.

And defensively he stunk. Quality guards were taking him behind the woodshed on a regular basis.

To finish the season, he had ONE basket total in the last THREE games. He was terrible. Illinois made the Final Four in spite of Kylan Boswell, not because of him. As I said yesterday, if the staff had left Boswell on Bennett Stirtz our season would have ended. Boswell was getting destroyed.

I don’t know. What would we really be getting back? An awful shooter who’s defense, at least this past season, was VASTLY overrated, or as I prefer to call it, bad.

To quote Pat Benatar, “Hit me with your best shot! Fire away.”
 
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Are we approaching the need to branch off just like the PGA and start a Senior league? I can hear PA announcers now... Starting at guard Vance "Van" Wilder Jr
 
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My understanding of the 5 in 5 rule is that injuries/red shirts will go away. You get 5 years. Period. A big part of the reason NCAA is pursuing is so they don't have to rule on eligibility anymore. The rule would make things very simple... at least once the initial madness is cleared up.
And what I'd read on the transfer front was that there would be one freebie, and then the graduate transfer and if-your-coach-leaves exemptions would still apply, but they would get rid of hardship waivers.

Same principle, the NCAA getting out of the business of exercising any independent judgment.

(IMO if you allow one freebie that should swallow the other exemptions too. Freebie-coach leaves-graduation still allows for Tre White/AJ Storr type careers and those have got to go)

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Iowa St, Houston, Arizona all get back guys as good if not clearly better than Hummer & Boswell. Plus we have to endure another year of Smith at Purdue.

Also do we see Morez all over again with Brad playing Ben over Morillo (assuming he doesn't just ask out of his commitment).

For the love of everything good and holy…….. Morillo is not a “4”.
 
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I HATE the proposed rule change. HATE it. That means it’s probably going to pass. Maybe I’m overreacting. Wouldn’t be the first time. This really hurts Illinois, in my opinion.

One of the big advantages we had by retaining our players was the built in comraderie and chemistry we had.

Well, if everyone is about to regain the services of multiple players, that negates, in large part anyway, what we accomplished through the retention.

Oh, and I’m sure I’ll get pushback on this but screw it. Kylan Boswell was not a good player last year. He couldn’t shoot. He was so horrific (along with Andrej) that we couldn’t afford both of them on the floor all that much. That’s why Jake Davis was starting.

And defensively he stunk. Quality guards were taking him behind the woodshed on a regular basis.

To finish the season, he had ONE basket total in the last THREE games. He was terrible. Illinois made the Final Four in spite of Kylan Boswell, not because of him. As I said yesterday, if the staff had left Boswell on Bennett Stirtz our season would have ended. Boswell was getting destroyed.

I don’t know. What would we really be getting back? An awful shooter who’s defense, at least this past season, was VASTLY overrated, or as I prefer to call it, bad.

To quote Pat Benatar, “Hit me with your best shot! Fire away.”
Cannot speak to his defense, but the man literally fractured his shooting hand in January. I personally do not believe he ever recovered from the injury. A summer getting fully healthy, and I would expect him to be an asset if he were allowed to return.

However, you are completely entitled to your opinion.
 
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Adding Boswell is objectively a net positive.

I still think the 5/5 rule would hurt our teams chances next year just because of the strength it would add to other teams.
If you want to win a Natty, you gotta beat everyone. You put together a great squad (we’ve done that) and you play it out. With Boswell and assuming no defections, I ain’t scared, of anyone. Anyone. Same basic team, Final Four experience, let’s GO!
 
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I HATE the proposed rule change. HATE it. That means it’s probably going to pass. Maybe I’m overreacting. Wouldn’t be the first time. This really hurts Illinois, in my opinion.

One of the big advantages we had by retaining our players was the built in comraderie and chemistry we had.

Well, if everyone is about to regain the services of multiple players, that negates, in large part anyway, what we accomplished through the retention.

Oh, and I’m sure I’ll get pushback on this but screw it. Kylan Boswell was not a good player last year. He couldn’t shoot. He was so horrific (along with Andrej) that we couldn’t afford both of them on the floor all that much. That’s why Jake Davis was starting.

And defensively he stunk. Quality guards were taking him behind the woodshed on a regular basis.

To finish the season, he had ONE basket total in the last THREE games. He was terrible. Illinois made the Final Four in spite of Kylan Boswell, not because of him. As I said yesterday, if the staff had left Boswell on Bennett Stirtz our season would have ended. Boswell was getting destroyed.

I don’t know. What would we really be getting back? An awful shooter who’s defense, at least this past season, was VASTLY overrated, or as I prefer to call it, bad.

To quote Pat Benatar, “Hit me with your best shot! Fire away.”
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1) the rule change would be a significant negative for the 2026-27 Illinois team. Move us from a consensus top 5 team to top 10.

2) I think Boswell being added would be far from certain. I think the staff is committed to QC. If QC is who the staff thinks QC is then Boswell’s role is maybe 15 minutes a game. Does Boswell want to take that role and paycheck when he could play and make significantly more elsewhere. I think the staff has and is committed to QC starting.

I’m just using round numbers but not a lot of minutes available is QC and Morillo are good.

Vaaks 30
QC 30
Dre 30
Mirk 30
Tomi 27
Z 23
Davis 15
Morillo 15
 
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Cannot speak to his defense, but the man literally fractured his shooting hand in January. I personally do not believe he ever recovered from the injury. A summer getting fully healthy, and I would expect him to be an asset if he were allowed to return.

However, you are completely entitled to your opinion.
If he can return to the defense we saw two years ago, there’s value there. I have no idea what happened this past season on that end of the floor. It wasn’t good.
 
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Soooo…… I asssume a lot of smart men and women with numerous advanced degrees will discuss the 5 in 5 rule and correctly deduce that it should be applied to incoming freshmen……. Right?
 
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I HATE the proposed rule change. HATE it. That means it’s probably going to pass. Maybe I’m overreacting. Wouldn’t be the first time. This really hurts Illinois, in my opinion.

One of the big advantages we had by retaining our players was the built in comraderie and chemistry we had.

Well, if everyone is about to regain the services of multiple players, that negates, in large part anyway, what we accomplished through the retention.

Oh, and I’m sure I’ll get pushback on this but screw it. Kylan Boswell was not a good player last year. He couldn’t shoot. He was so horrific (along with Andrej) that we couldn’t afford both of them on the floor all that much. That’s why Jake Davis was starting.

And defensively he stunk. Quality guards were taking him behind the woodshed on a regular basis.

To finish the season, he had ONE basket total in the last THREE games. He was terrible. Illinois made the Final Four in spite of Kylan Boswell, not because of him. As I said yesterday, if the staff had left Boswell on Bennett Stirtz our season would have ended. Boswell was getting destroyed.

I don’t know. What would we really be getting back? An awful shooter who’s defense, at least this past season, was VASTLY overrated, or as I prefer to call it, bad.

To quote Pat Benatar, “Hit me with your best shot! Fire away.”
My brother in Christ, adding another year for the homegrown, worth his weight in chemistry gold, veteran “captain” who was selfless and team-focused in helping train the younger guys would be nothing but a positive across the board.

His playing concerns only started when he broke his hand. He came back as quickly as he did because we were in serious need of having him back. Give him a summer to heal further, a summer to lead the team and younger guys again, and we’d be a force. Never mind the fact that he fills the one role many on here have had concerns with.

I think the only risky part would be other guys like Coleman and Andrej, if it affects their commitment like adding Blackwell was going to do. That’d be the only argument I could entertain why adding Boswell would be a negative aside from how others have expressed it means other teams get stronger from their graduating class.
 
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Lets just say Boz does come back .

We were concerned about minutes with Blackwell , wont this be the same problem ?
On the other hand, an EDG returning for a third season in the system as a super senior would be an incredible asset if healthy. I think this is an entirely different scenario than bringing in a one-year mercenary who was being recruited for a different role who wanted to handle the ball more.

I believe a healthy Boswell on the team next year would be a pleasant surprise. If the rules don't change, I believe we will still be fine.
 
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Lets just say Boz does come back .

We were concerned about minutes with Blackwell , wont this be the same problem ?
Blackwell would've been a threat to usage for Andrej (and our other starters) in addition to being a threat to playing time for anyone vying for a starting spot (a good problem to have if everyone's on board, and evidently they weren't).

Bos (or someone like him) would set a nice floor for a starting spot without being a threat to our starters' usage, and the other guys vying for playing time would see a better chance of beating him out for it.
 
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On the other hand, a EDG returning for a third season in the system as a super senior would be an incredible asset if healthy. I think this is an entirely different scenario than bringing in a one-year mercenary who was being recruited for a different role who wanted to handle the ball more.

I believe a healthy Boswell on the team next year would be a pleasant surprise. If the rules don't change, I believe we will still be fine.
Considering character and leadership, do you think he’d take slightly lesser usage (helping develop Coleman, Morillo, Brown)? Or do we think he’d go back to being starter?

I would wonder if he’d enter the second rotation to be an asset off the bench, but maybe he could view that as a hindrance on his draft stock? I know he’s been vocal on pushing for the NBA so I’m honestly curious. I could see some sensitive conversations on usage and start/bench topics needing to be navigated to keep who we have while bringing him back.
 
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On the other hand, an EDG returning for a third season in the system as a super senior would be an incredible asset if healthy. I think this is an entirely different scenario than bringing in a one-year mercenary who was being recruited for a different role who wanted to handle the ball more.

I believe a healthy Boswell on the team next year would be a pleasant surprise. If the rules don't change, I believe we will still be fine.
Agreed. But we have no idea if Boswell would even want to return if the rule were to be passed.

Lots of "ifs" here.
 
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